caseynewton,
@caseynewton@mastodon.social avatar

Also in this issue: an update on the Substack / Nazi situation. We're meeting with the company this week in hopes Substack will remove all pro-Nazi material under its existing anti-hate policies. If it chooses not to, Platformer will move off Substack https://www.platformer.news/p/openais-news-blues)

Aaron,
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@caseynewton C’mon Casey. You know they’re not gonna remove anything. Just migrate and be done with it. If they can’t unequivocally denounce hosting Nazi content on their own, how are you going to convince them?

Even if they agree to change it’ll be because of money and not for the real reasons. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

gurupanguji,

@caseynewton Good luck on the migration. I know it’s tough to make that choice given your business is a quintessential example of Substack.

axbom,
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@caseynewton Did they ever change their stance on the conspiracy / anti-vaxxer people they were revealed to be profiting from two years ago? I feel like Substack have been saying exactly what they stand for, for quite some time now. Not sure how many strikes one considers them to be entitled to before they’re out…

« This type of content is “so bad no one else will host it,” said Imran Ahmed, CEO of the Center for Countering Digital Hate, a nonprofit that focuses on combating misinformation and has researched Substack. By splitting subscription profits with creators, the group estimates, Substack generates at least $2.5 million a year in revenue from just five anti-vaccine leaders who have amassed tens of thousands of subscribers, each paying $50 a year.

Substack declined to comment, but shortly after The Washington Post made inquiries, CEO Chris Best and his two co-founders published a blog post saying that putting up with “the presence of writers with whom we strongly disagree” was a “necessary precondition for creating more trust in the information ecosystem as a whole.” »

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/01/27/substack-misinformation-anti-vaccine/

anitalettink, (edited )

@caseynewton not holding my breath for a positive outcome.. I’m moving my newsletter off the platform next week. A year ago I had to move from Revue/Twitter. I”m going the e-mail route to avoid an annual migration.

junio,

@caseynewton

I appreciate that you’re giving them a chance to both respond and show their true colors and that you know that there is a right and a wrong in this.

This is the journalism that’s possible when journalists are in charge of their platform.

StarkRG,
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@caseynewton Didn't they already come down hard multiple times on not removing it? Seems like you're giving them way more leeway than they deserve. When someone tells you they're a Nazi sympathizer, believe them, don't ask repeatedly if they are.

caseynewton,
@caseynewton@mastodon.social avatar

@StarkRG I'm not asking them about their opinion — I'm asking them to change it

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ryansingel,
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@caseynewton
Happy to talk about a move to Ghost if that combo doesn't work out

caseynewton,
@caseynewton@mastodon.social avatar

@ryansingel do you work there? we emailed their concierge team and haven't heard back

ryansingel,
@ryansingel@writing.exchange avatar

@caseynewton
No I run Outpost.pub, a service that does power services for sites running Ghost. Most of our clients use Ghost Pro for hosting.

We can move you over and build you a custom website for free and I can nudge concierge

ernie,
@ernie@writing.exchange avatar

@ryansingel @caseynewton can vouch for Ryan, he does great stuff and helped the 404 team get going

jeridansky,
@jeridansky@sfba.social avatar

@caseynewton If you move to another platform, I'll be able to subscribe! I've avoided any Substack subscriptions for years now, for ethical reasons.

thorms11,
@thorms11@mastodon.social avatar

@caseynewton love that you are taking this so seriously! I am still on there currently, but will absolutely move if they don't change their stance soon.

shoq,
@shoq@mastodon.social avatar

@caseynewton Thank you for your leadership on this. Some of us notice such things.

joshgammon,

@caseynewton I look forward to learning about Platformer’s new home! 🙏🏼

luis_in_brief,
@luis_in_brief@social.coop avatar

@caseynewton Sorry that you have to do this, but good on you for not ignoring it.

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