fancysandwiches

@fancysandwiches@mstdn.social

Software person, co-founder of PyCascades and PuPPy, artist in my free time (primarily Watercolors and Gouache). He/Him

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nexusofprivacy, to kbin

Eight days later: KBin, Lemmy, the landed gentry, and the rise of the "threadiverse" (DRAFT)

Feedback welcome!!!!!

https://privacy.thenexus.today/8-days-later-draft-kbin-lemmy-landed-gentry/

#kbin #lemmy #threadiverse @fediversenews @RedditMigration @fediverse

fancysandwiches,

@nexusofprivacy @fediversenews @RedditMigration @fediverse going to try and give it a read this evening

fancysandwiches, to random

I'm all for #DefederateMeta, but have we also considered #DefenestrateMeta?

fancysandwiches, to random

Imagine viewing mastodon.art as a bigger threat than fucking Meta. Delusional.

stux, to random
@stux@mstdn.social avatar

Currently I have a VERY STRONG feeling to block mastodon.art

The admin over there always complains so very much about the descions other admins make and just now the person is only fueling this meta indicent BIG TIME

They block everything that is "wrong" in their eyes but they are much worse themselves..

Sad..

fancysandwiches,

@stux please don't, I follow a ton of accounts over there.

stux, to random
@stux@mstdn.social avatar

I'm gonna try to clear up a few things

Meta is not gonna buy Mastodon or any server, this is based on absolutely nothing and untrue.

Yes, some of us indeed got contacted by Meta/Insta because they are working on a new social platform (this was in the news) and they are looking into joining the Fediverse (Mark Zuckerberg also told this in the recent podcast)

SO.

This contact was about a "heads-up" for a potential big platform to join the network and not for a "take over".

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fancysandwiches,

@stux hey Stux, thanks for finally posting something, I appreciate the clarity. I have a ton of concerns around Federating with Meta, and I think you should consider them. I know it's probably a big ask, but I wrote a blog post that I think would be useful to read, so at a minimum you can better understand folks concerns.

https://www.cacherules.com/blog/2023/6/defederate-meta/

phildini, to fediverse
@phildini@wandering.shop avatar

Some of you follow me because I’ve been around the since 2017 as an admin and discourser for that time.

I think the pledge against is probably good! There’s no evidence that meta has ever cared about the web, and they will pick the bones clean of anything they touch. Block on site, good hunting.

If a similar pledge comes around for , I’ll probably be against it. There IS evidence that they want to be good neighbors on the web, and I’m willing to give them a chance.

fancysandwiches,

@phildini yeah, I'm in the same boat. If Yahoo still owned Tumblr I'd maybe have a different opinion.

yassie_j, to random

I know people have elucidated greatly on why Zucc is bad, but I want to hone onto one specific event.

Facebook entered then then-newly-opened country of Myanmar under their “Free Basics” programme. Zucc would underwrite the data costs of the mobile networks. In exchange? Well, Facebook would be ‘free’ for everyone to use in the country.

This had the (un)intended effect that everyone in Myanmar associated Facebook with the Internet.

Facebook, at this point, did not have a Burmese-speaking moderation team. They would not for a while. This is important to note. The Facebook algorithm started amplifying anti-Muslim content. Because that’s what people wanted to see in Myanmar. The military-backed civilian government even spread this content on Facebook. Because of this, such content spread far and wide.

It spread so fast that it catalysed a racial and ethnic genocide in Myanmar of this Muslim minority group. It took Zucc three years into the conflict to appoint a Burmese-speaking moderation team; by which point it was too late.

Facebook willingly, knowingly, and with only their bottom line at the forefront, accelerated one of the most devastating genocides in the world.

We should not give the “benefit of a doubt” to a war criminal.

fancysandwiches,

@yassie_j Facebook was so prevalent that people didn't refer to the Internet as "The Internet", but instead as "Facebook".

fancysandwiches, to random

I spent a good bit of yesterday spinning up a blog, and writing a blog post about #DefederateMeta. A few hours into working on the blog my thread from a week ago blew up and had a TON of discussion, which is not something I ever expected to happen.

My new blog post is on the same topic, but expands upon it a little further, and also includes a bit of background for those that may not be familiar with what Meta's plans are.

https://www.cacherules.com/blog/2023/6/defederate-meta/

fancysandwiches,

In my blog post I cover a few other reasons why I think we should #DefederateMeta. One of those reasons is Algorithmic Content. There is no doubt that Meta's app will be heavily influenced by algorithmic feeds, that is the bread and butter of their other apps. Those algorithms will absolutely leak their way into the greater Fediverse, and change the way people post and interact with each other here.

fancysandwiches,

Another topic I cover in my #DefederateMeta blog post is Commercialization. Meta's new app is guaranteed to have ads, it's the only way they make money. Those ads will most definitely leak into the greater Fediverse, and your content will be used to help Meta hyper target ads to their users. So far the Fediverse has been a largely non-commercial space, and I think we should keep it that way.

fancysandwiches, to random

On this evening I am thankful for hate5six and his tireless work to record live shows with such quality that they rival studio albums

fancysandwiches,

This post is brought to you by this Acacia Strain video I've watched a million times

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0TBhh8qaVY&t=0s

fancysandwiches, to random

I am evaluating where I go next, and one of my options has a HUGE ban list, as well a bunch of servers they've "limited". Can someone help me understand how a "limited" server would affect me? It appears that if you follow accounts from a limited instance you'll still see there content, but I am wondering what would happen if someone say boosts an account I don't follow from a limited instance, would I see that or not?

fancysandwiches,

For example: let's say the server I am on limits Server A

I follow a person from Server A, I will see their posts. If that person boosts another account from Server A (that I don't follow) will I see the boosted post?

If I follow someone from Server B, a fully federated server, and they boost someone from Server A, will I see the boosted post?

Will people from Server A see my posts if someone they follow boosts them on their timeline?

fancysandwiches,

@gretared Oh, I didn't know that it would affect follows like that, good to know! Thank you.

fancysandwiches,

@gretared Awesome, thank you for helping me figure this out. It certainly seems less than ideal when dealing with muted servers, hopefully that gets resolved with time, even if it's an opt-in feature.

fancysandwiches, to random

Wow, my thread from earlier this week about my concerns around Meta entering the Fediverse is really popping off right now. For those interested I am actively writing a blog post that goes into more detail around my concerns, that thread really didn't say that much. I'll hopefully have something up this weekend.

#DefederateMeta #DefenestrateMeta

dansup, to random
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    fancysandwiches,

    @dansup @rysiek if they have the Fediverse' best interests in mind why aren't they operating with transparency? Why is it secret who met with Meta, and why is the subject they discussed kept secret? Since when is operating in secrecy the best thing for the Fediverse?

    fancysandwiches, to random

    I'm looking for a new Mastodon server to join. One that will not federate with Meta. Bonus points if it's a community that is oriented towards my interests, which are varied:

    • Art: Painting, sketching, etc.
    • Nature: Bird watching, nature photography, etc.
    • Synthesizers
    • Woodworking
    • Tech savvy, with a critical eye towards Big Tech, AI, and Crypto(currency)

    If you know of a server that would be a good fit please let me know, I'm trying to move my account before Meta launches their app.

    fancysandwiches,

    Shit escalated today, and I need a new home ASAP. If you have any recommendations please let me know. I love dot art, but they're so heavy handed with blocks (which I respect) that they block a few instances I want to interact with so I can't go there.

    fancysandwiches, to random

    A lot of admins of larger Mastodon (and other Fediverse) servers are showing excitement for Meta launching an App in the Fediverse. Their reasoning mostly being "growing the Protocol is good!". Most feedback, is met with different versions of "growth is good". I want to take a minute to push back on this narrative that all growth is inherently good, because it absolutely is not. This type of thinking stems from the Silicon Valley VC crowd, where they pursue growth at all costs.

    #DefederateMeta

    fancysandwiches,

    @laurenshof @tchambers @J12t @edendestroyer @hrefna @jdp23 if your friend wants to use Twitter and Insta so be it. Like I said in my original post growth for growth's sake is not actually a good thing. We don't need to grow the Fediverse at all costs. I certainly believe everyone that wants to join should be able to join (minus fascists and bigots), however I do not think we should be inviting or federating with organizations like Meta. They are bad actors.

    fancysandwiches,

    @tchambers @ophiocephalic @jdp23 @hrefna @J12t @edendestroyer Yes, they can most definitely scrape the Fediverse as it exists today, but there is a difference between scraping the Fediverse, and then building a network on the Fediverse, with algorithms powered by all of the data you scraped, that allow you to offer tools to other corporations and brands to hyper target everyone on the Fediverse, which Meta is absolutely going to do.

    fancysandwiches,

    @tchambers @ophiocephalic @jdp23 @hrefna @J12t @edendestroyer That is not to say scraping is excusable behavior to begin with! Almost no one has consented to that, nor do they want their content scraped so someone else can make money off of it.

    fancysandwiches,

    @oblomov @jdp23 @misc @edendestroyer @tchambers And the whole XMPP thing was repeated again by Slack, who supported XMPP and IRC when they first launched, as a way to gain users quickly. Once they had a big user base they dropped support.

    https://opkode.com/blog/slacks-bait-and-switch/

    fancysandwiches,

    @oblomov @jdp23 @misc @edendestroyer @tchambers Yes, here is a good example of the rhetoric being used to praise Google when they adopted XMPP:

    https://www.infoworld.com/article/2669535/google-talk-gives-boost-to-xmpp.html

    fancysandwiches,

    @lori Yes, I agree, and I agree with your greater point about standards bloat being used as mechanism to push out noncommercial participants.

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