tulpa, to random
@tulpa@fosstodon.org avatar

Is #Kagi actually any good? Because at this point, I find "general knowledge" questions impossible to answer with DDG.

bitprophet, to NixOS
@bitprophet@social.coop avatar

Getting really sick of painstakingly migrating to some Cool New Technical Thing With Superpowers and then whoops, It's All Ethics Violations after a while.

First #Kagi - CEO is a white dude who can't read the room when a bunch of users raise serious concerns re: suicide warnings, .ru indexes, Brave collab, etc.

Now #Nix / #NixOS - BDFL is a white dude who can't read the room when a bunch of users raise serious concerns re: toxic members, shitty governance, MIC sponsorship, etc.

bram85, to orgmode
@bram85@emacs.ch avatar

#kagi.el 0.5 was released yesterday and is now available on MELPA Stable. Most of the highlights have already been mentioned on my timeline:

• Define your own prompts with define-kagi-fastgpt-prompt' • Embed prompts and responses inside #orgmode • A no-cache' parameter for some summarizer commands (so your text flows through Kagi's infrastructure without retention)

You can find the full changelog in the README.

<https://codeberg.org/bram85/kagi.el>

#emacs

kagan, to rant
@kagan@wandering.shop avatar

Someone else's mentions maybe aren't the place to put this, so I'll put it in my own timeline, where I get to say whatever TF I want:

#Kagi #Brave #rant #BrendanEich #homophobia #queerphobia #queermisia

hsl, to til

that the plugin in can show search results in your browser - works! This is so brilliant as it ties more of my data points together. https://publish.obsidian.md/omnisearch/Inject+Omnisearch+results+into+your+search+engine

LukePhilipps, to random German
@LukePhilipps@swiss.social avatar

Zu :
«We have recently implemented changes to our billing process to comply with global tax regulations.»

Wie geht das?
«We weren't initially required to collect sales tax/VAT until reaching certain thresholds, typically defined by the number of customers in a jurisdiction or sales volume.»

https://help.kagi.com/kagi/faq/sales-tax-vat.html

bram85, to orgmode
@bram85@emacs.ch avatar

Now it's possible to access #kagi FastGPT from #orgmode:

#+begin_src kagi-fastgpt
A prompt inside an Org Babel block.
#+end_src

Check the README how to configure.

http://codeberg.org/bram85/kagi.el

#emacs

slink, to random
@slink@fosstodon.org avatar

changed default search from #kagi to #mojeek. let's see how that goes.

slink, (edited )
@slink@fosstodon.org avatar

update: for me and so far, is either very much spot on or clearly bad. i had to fall back to often, but will continue this experiment for longer.

BlueMonday1984, to techtakes in The whole internet loves Kagi, a lovely paid search engine that can find things! *5 seconds later* We regret to inform you the CEO is an unhinged narcissist who will harangue you in email

Also Kagi is a glorified Google front end.

The fact a glorified Google front end manages to be less shit than Google is a pretty damning indictment of Google, I’ll give Kagi that. Quoting Cory Doctorow, gratuitous italics and all:

The implications of this are stunning. It means that Google’s enshittified search-results are a choice. Those ad-strewn, sub-Altavista, spam-drowned search pages are a feature, not a bug. Google prefers those results to Kagi, because Google makes more money out of shit than they would out of delivering a good product: theverge.com/…/best-printer-2024-home-use-office-…

gershman, to C_Programming
@gershman@mastodon.acm.org avatar

Internet search is absolute shit.

Question: Is there a way to block/ignore a function provided by a library in favor of my own so I don't have to rename things?

Ex: I have my own code with a 'pause' function, but the code requires "unistd.h" for other stuff. "unistd.h" already has a 'pause' function (different return/params, etc.)

Is there a way to include "unistd.h" but tell the compiler to favor my 'pause' function instead?

#C

slink,
@slink@fosstodon.org avatar

@gershman search: use
use library function names: don't. while you can play some preprocessor trickery, all you will end up with is confusion all over the place.

bram85, to emacs
@bram85@emacs.ch avatar

It became a bit easier to extend kagi.el with your own FastGPT prompts. You could define the following prompt in your configuration:

(define-kagi-fast-prompt  
 my/synonym  
 "Give a synonym for the word: %s")  

Now, my/synonym becomes a real #emacs command that accepts text to fill in for the placeholder. You could use it from Lisp:

(my/synonym "happy")  

Or use it interactively, where the word will be retrieved from the region or by reading the minibuffer.

Demo: https://asciinema.org/a/653482

The new kagi package is available in MELPA, or from Codeberg:

https://codeberg.org/bram85/kagi.el

#kagi

ScottStarkey, to DuckDuckGo
@ScottStarkey@hoosier.social avatar

I was trying to figure out what #EidMubarak actually meant. Sadly, #DuckDuckGo is becoming much more susceptible to #enshittification.

I'm afraid if I want a real #SearchEngine, I may have to have to pay for it with #Kagi.

I'm still a little fuzzy about what "Eid Mubarak" means, but I think it means essentially "Happy Holidays" to those who are participating in the feast at the end of the month of Ramadan. So, if that's you, Eid Mubarak!

cliffwade, to ads
@cliffwade@allthingstech.social avatar

I believe this is a pretty new feature within Kagi Search. You can click on the yellow/orange shield with the exclamation mark in it and you get the popup that you see here.

This popup tells you just how many ads and trackers that specific site uses as well as what category of ads and trackers it uses.

This is one of the neatest things I've seen Kagi Search add so far.

18+ ifixcoinops, to random
@ifixcoinops@retro.social avatar
  1. LLM-generated text reads, at its absolute best, like lifeless overwritten gunge
  2. computers can't tell LLM gunge apart from actual writing and will never be able to
  3. humans CAN tell LLM gunge apart from actual writing, because of point 1
  4. humans increasingly fucking hate this shit and don't want to read it
  5. it takes much longer for a human to realise that they're reading LLM gunge (and close the site obvs) than it takes for the computer to vomit it up

Given 1-4 of the above, the first person to create a working LLM blocker or LLM-free search engine or browser will make SERIOUS BANK

But also given 2, they won't be able to, at least not without hiring an army of human readers

Given 5, a new type of job will appear, and a LOT of people will need to do this job

Given 4, and also 5, nobody will actually want to do it

Bonus: writing that's so crap it's indistinguishable from LLM vomit will also get flagged and flushed

People telling me this is a ridiculous take, pls refer to deadDoveDoNotEat.jpg

LeBonk,

@ifixcoinops
1-4 conclusion sounds like Kagi (which is basically just a Searx instance but smarter but it charges a subscription fee) https://pluralistic.net/2024/04/04/teach-me-how-to-shruggie/#kagi (@pluralistic)

notabene, to random
@notabene@piaille.fr avatar

@pluralistic Once again thanks for sharing your thoughts, re: https://pluralistic.net/2024/04/04/teach-me-how-to-shruggie/#kagi

Do you have an opinion on duckduckgo vs. Kagi Technically it seems to be doing the same thing, so I wonder whether I should leave one to try the other…?

josemurilo, to random
@josemurilo@mato.social avatar

" is a heavily customized, anonymized front-end to Google.

The implications of this are stunning. It means that Google's enshittified search-results are a choice. Those ad-strewn, sub-Altavista, spam-drowned pages are a feature, not a bug. Google prefers those to Kagi, because Google makes more money out of shit than they would out of delivering a good product.
No wonder Google spends a Twitter every year to make sure you never try a rival search engine."
https://pluralistic.net/2024/04/04/teach-me-how-to-shruggie/

zeldman, to random
@zeldman@front-end.social avatar

“Google's enshittified search-results are a choice. Those ad-strewn, sub-Altavista, spam-drowned search pages are a feature, not a bug… Google makes more money out of shit than they would out of delivering a good product.” @pluralistic

https://pluralistic.net/2024/04/04/teach-me-how-to-shruggie/#kagi #enshittification

jpanzer, to random
@jpanzer@mastodon.social avatar
bloodravenlib, to tech
@bloodravenlib@mas.to avatar

>Too big to care
https://pluralistic.net/2024/04/04/teach-me-how-to-shruggie/#kagi by @pluralistic

On the of Google, but not much many of us can do. For one, I can't just write a check to something like Kagi for my search needs (and I highly doubt my library would pony up for it either). Will just have to keep looking for options, but it gets harder. And not only does the company not care, very often my brethren don't care either.

pluralistic, to random
@pluralistic@mamot.fr avatar

Remember the first time you used Google search? It was like magic. After years of progressively worsening search quality from Altavista and Yahoo, Google was literally stunning, a gateway to the very best things on the internet.

--

If you'd like an essay-formatted version of this thread to read or share, here's a link to it on pluralistic.net, my surveillance-free, ad-free, tracker-free blog:

https://pluralistic.net/2024/04/04/teach-me-how-to-shruggie/#kagi

1/

Mehrad, to random
@Mehrad@fosstodon.org avatar

Well, #Qwant, the "privacy focused" French search engine is not only proprietary but now is forcing the user to show ads and disable their ad blocker.

Anyone have any alternative search-engine suggestion apart from duckduckgo (which is practically Bing), and Searx instances?

#AskFedi #adblock

b_trochimowicz,

@gacha @Mehrad There's #Kagi with subscription

louis, to random
@louis@emacs.ch avatar

TIL: Kagi has an integrated speedtest. No more "Ookla" ads.

#Kagi

scy, to random
@scy@chaos.social avatar

I don't want "regularly remind people that #Kagi is a bunch of libertarians" to be my job, but as people are currently talking about them more than usual, and many seem to not know about it, let me link to my thread from January about it:

https://chaos.social/@scy/111704636274463611

In short, when asked to not collaborate with cryptocurrency-powered, homophobe-led company Brave, Kagi's CEO responded with things like "Politics finding its way into tech is one of the reason we do not have innovation any more."

chungliwen, to random

@liztai I procrastinated as much as I could, but I eventually got around to finishing the last 20% of this #Kagi article I started 2 months ago.

https://chungliwen.com/kagi-search-rediscovering-the-web/

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