liztai, to random
@liztai@hachyderm.io avatar

Am thinking of going full nerd with Kagi. Am so sick of Google's ad riddled search results, I swear...

Do you use ?

danielsiepmann, to SmallWeb

Do you know some that searches the or , something beside the big players?

E.g. I want to get opinions about whether to use or not use assert() within PHP. And I bet there are a couple of posts out there with pros and cons and opinions on general. I'm looking for them.

But general searches only return docs, StackOverflow, etc. …

danielsiepmann,

@Konafets I couldn't find anything related on their site. Looks like this is a Mac exclusive Desktop Application? Maybe I should have been more clear. I want a web search within my browser. Also best would be “for free” as I don't need it that often and don't want to go the way I tried with where I pay way too much for the one to three searches I do per month.

But thanks for pointing that out, it might be helpful for others.

emill1984, to ai Polish
@emill1984@101010.pl avatar

ma calkiem fajny ficzer podawania wynikow wyszukiwania jako podsumowanie ("summary") w postaci czegos w rodzaju odpowiedzi od

Oczywiscie zawsze taka odpowiedz nalezy zweryfikowac czy przypadkiem AI nie gada glupot, ale ogolnie fajna rzecz

krasnopolski,

@emill1984 jest fantastyczne, obecnie testuję wersję Ultimate,która m.innymi daje dostęp do Chat GPT 4 oraz Claude 2.
Tip: Można w polu wyszukiwania użyć skrótu !chat i od razu pisać komendy do AI.

ktemkin, (edited ) to random
@ktemkin@chaos.social avatar

okay, here's an interesting wide-open one: what services [in general, no restrictions] do people like/recommend?

e.g we use:

  • Mattermost (self-hosted work chat)
  • FastMail (work & personal e-mail, work calendar, work storage)
  • Xero (work accounting software)
  • Simplifi (personal accounting)
  • NextCloud (self-hosted personal storage, calendar)
  • SearXNG (self-hosted [meta] search engine)
  • Forgejo (work git; gitea but federated)
  • BookStack (work wiki)

what do y'all use/recommend?

bronsen,
@bronsen@chaos.social avatar

@ktemkin I like reader and use their hosted plan https://miniflux.app/hosting.html (very cheap; absolutely zero issues in several years, so cannot say anything about their customer support).

I also use, but do not like, youtube premium: fewer ads but still lousy UX.

Wanted to pay for but then their CEO (I think) doubled down on some shitty remarks.

fallenhitokiri, to random
@fallenhitokiri@social.screamingatmyscreen.com avatar

I am now a paid subscriber and setting it as default search engine on iOS is an adventure.

This is entirely on Apple and I have to say Kagis fix with the browser extension and redirect is rather creative. Kudos for that one!

18+ matt, to Ecosia
@matt@oslo.town avatar

Like, okay, I get it. You need to make money... but come on. This is way too many ads, .

matt,
@matt@oslo.town avatar

@jantzen Yes! Thanks for the recommendation. I was subscribed to for a while, but decided to stick with (for now) because they plant trees with their profits.

🌳 🌳 🌳 🌳

malwaretech, to random

I hate that I'm now a frequent user of ChatGPT. It's not that it's good, it's just that Google has become so unbelievably useless that it's near impossible to get usable results. It's like they've reverted to pure keyword based search. I just get results that (sometimes) contain my search terms, but not relevant to the context of my search.

withoutclass,
@withoutclass@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

@malwaretech there are search products that exist that are not bad. I've been using awhile now and it's great.

sesivany, to random
@sesivany@floss.social avatar

I've been playing with today and I've gone from skeptical to in love. I've never felt so much at the center with any search service before. I guess that's what a service where the user is the customer, not the product looks like.
I'm really considering paying €10/m... for a search service!

bram85, to emacs
@bram85@emacs.ch avatar

kagi.el now has the kagi-translate command, a versatile command to translate text to another language using

With kagi-translate you can:

  • translate simple words from the minibuffer
  • translate the region
  • translate a whole buffer
  • use it as a function to translate text from
  • Not limited to spoken languages, you can convert a code buffer to another programming language (see demo below).

https://asciinema.org/a/633592

Should come to MELPA soon on the next build, or if you can't wait clone from the git repo at:

https://codeberg.org/bram85/kagi.el

As with all other kagi.el functionality, please check the project's README on how to get your API token, if you haven't done so already.

Demonstration of the

linuxlads, to gamedev
@linuxlads@fosstodon.org avatar

New episode is out!
https://linuxlads.com/episodes/115

We (minus @amolith) talk about the Watt-Wise Game Jam, Kagi including results from Brave's API, and AI anti-vitriol, then we interrogate @jbauer about life, the universe, and everything (what OSes he uses and how he edits the show).

james, to random
@james@bne.social avatar

I wrote quite a long piece about the search engine, which I use almost exclusively now. It’s rather good, I think.

https://james.cridland.net/blog/2024/a-new-search-engine/

orci, to random
@orci@mastodon.social avatar

Anyone using search? Is it worth it to you?

bram85, to emacs
@bram85@emacs.ch avatar

meets inside

Given an URL, a new denote is created, the title is fetched an prefilled. With the kagi.el package it's possible to insert a summary automatically.

The screencast below shows how I create a new note from Prot's video on customizing modeline colors, and insert a Dutch summary right away:

https://asciinema.org/a/631451

The full code is linked below. Make sure to update kagi.el from MELPA first.

https://apps.bram85.nl/git/bram/gists/src/commit/73a2cb21ecda81eb374174696150e04916faa548/gists/denote-create-note-url.el

ctietze, to random
@ctietze@mastodon.social avatar

Was very hard to find the ball and put it into 'doggo's mouth as god intended

kev, to random
@kev@fosstodon.org avatar

I’ve been testing for the last week or so (yes I know about the Brave drama, but I don't want to go there).

So far I'm impressed with the results and I'm considering subscribing. But they had an outage yesterday which lasted HOURS, and because their extension basically intercepts and redirect any search traffic, I couldn't just visit DDG and search. I had to disable the ext first (which is a pain in Safari).

This has me questioning whether a fledgling search engine is the right choice…

tournesol, to searxng
@tournesol@peculiar.florist avatar

Withdrawal syndroms are over, farewell .
I’m quite happy going back to as a search engine and I use various when I need different results

bitprophet, to random
@bitprophet@social.coop avatar

lmao, signed into in order to cancel my subscription, and they're having such severe technical issues that I can't even do that right now 😂

In their defense, this is literally the first time in 6+ months I've ever encountered any tech issues with them.

But it's funny timing!

bitprophet,
@bitprophet@social.coop avatar

’s back & I've canceled my sub. Have 1 week to find a replacement:

  • , if I get super desperate, lolno.
  • , always the obvious "not Google" choice; but ISTR them having their own ethical quandaries? & are "just Bing"? Brief trial "feels good” tho, need to dig more.
  • sounds like a nice idea, but is probably just greenwashing?
  • is cool but not quite the same level as Goog/DDG/Kagi, too narrowly focused to be a catchall.
  • What else?
robianhood, to privacy

I WISH FOR one or more trustworthy companies like e.g. @protonmail, not backed by venture capitalists, to develop an ad-free, respecting, customizable engine that provides good search results, and search results not based on Google and Bing.

A paid for service but affordable by many/most people. Not a rich man's search engine like e.g. (108 USD a year). 🤔

michael, to SEO
@michael@thms.uk avatar

LOL. This is brilliant 🤣

0xSim, (edited ) to random
@0xSim@hachyderm.io avatar

: a paid search engine with 0 tracking and 0 ads. Choosing to use it is obviously taking a stance against the status quo imposed by Google et al., literally "voting with your money" with the hope of having an ethical AND sustainable web.

Also : "pOliTiCs fiNdiNg itS wAy iNto tEcH iS oNe oF tHe rEasOns wE do nOT hAvE iNnovAtion aNy mOrE"

18+ foosel, to random
@foosel@chaos.social avatar

Given the whole current situation with Kagi and Brave and my disappointment at the CEO's "keep politics out of tech" tech bro BS, I fear I might have to switch search engines again.

What I want is basically Google's index without its tracking, and being able to completely remove whole domains from the results (killer feature of Kagi for me). Happy to pay.

I've tried DDG in the past and was not happy with the quality. Maybe searxng? But no filtering there.

Ideas?

foosel,
@foosel@chaos.social avatar

To be able to properly evaluate as an alternative to , I've just set up an instance in my homelab.

Next Kagi payment cycle is coming up next week, until then I'll hopefully know if this works or not. If anything can test how well a search engine works for me, it's a work week.

foosel,
@foosel@chaos.social avatar

The experience with my self-hosted meta search engine is so far not perfect, but good enough.

I've just cancelled my Pro subscription and will delete the account once that runs out on Sunday.

I wanted to love Kagi, loved its (stated) goals, but if the project leader goes all "keep politics out of tech" as reaction to criticism about collaborating with Brave, then it's apparently just one more tech-bro project out there, and I don't need to support that with my money.

alcinnz, to random
@alcinnz@floss.social avatar

Hmmm, interesting... I just noticed: Mojeek has indexed my sites! I did a search for "Haphaestus", tells me their index is reasonably up to date.

https://www.mojeek.com/search?q=haphaestus

Mojeek is the only general-purpose search engine that isn't just a frontend on Google or Bing. I might start using it!

qHai,

@alcinnz What do you think on (kagi.com)?

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