scy, to random
@scy@chaos.social avatar

So #Kagi is now partnering with #Brave, i.e. the company of Brendan Eich, who has been CEO at Mozilla for eleven days before he had to leave due to massive criticism of his homophobic views. Brave's most well-known product is a browser with its own cryptocurrency, co-designed by Eich.

A feedback post asking Kagi to reconsider has been closed by Kagi's founder Vladimir Prelovac because "Considering company x founder political views is not a factor in [their] evaluation".

https://kagifeedback.org/d/2808-reconsider-your-partnership-with-brave

bitprophet, to random
@bitprophet@social.coop avatar

lmao, signed into in order to cancel my subscription, and they're having such severe technical issues that I can't even do that right now 😂

In their defense, this is literally the first time in 6+ months I've ever encountered any tech issues with them.

But it's funny timing!

pluralistic, to random
@pluralistic@mamot.fr avatar

Remember the first time you used Google search? It was like magic. After years of progressively worsening search quality from Altavista and Yahoo, Google was literally stunning, a gateway to the very best things on the internet.

--

If you'd like an essay-formatted version of this thread to read or share, here's a link to it on pluralistic.net, my surveillance-free, ad-free, tracker-free blog:

https://pluralistic.net/2024/04/04/teach-me-how-to-shruggie/#kagi

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scy, to random German
@scy@chaos.social avatar

Probiere aus.

Noch jemand von euch? Was meint ihr?

https://kagi.com/

andycarolan, to random
@andycarolan@social.lol avatar

Can we get #Kagi to 20000 members? https://kagi.com/stats

bitprophet, to random
@bitprophet@social.coop avatar

This thread is well put. I may be canceling my own subscription soon. Gotta see whether I can programmatically filter Google (or DDG or etc) results tho. Hmm.

https://hachyderm.io/@inthehands/111707573907442638

kev, to random
@kev@fosstodon.org avatar

I’ve been testing for the last week or so (yes I know about the Brave drama, but I don't want to go there).

So far I'm impressed with the results and I'm considering subscribing. But they had an outage yesterday which lasted HOURS, and because their extension basically intercepts and redirect any search traffic, I couldn't just visit DDG and search. I had to disable the ext first (which is a pain in Safari).

This has me questioning whether a fledgling search engine is the right choice…

tournesol, to random
@tournesol@peculiar.florist avatar

ptdrrr c’est quoi ces réponses du staff de #kagi ?? ​:sadcat:​

je suis pas le plus grand détracteur de brave search mais la manière dont kagi gère la situation me déplaît fortement

on va retourner sur #Qwant le temps de trouver une solution ​:blob_melt_sob:​

josh, to random
@josh@josh.tel avatar

I get relying on sources that don't share my values. Nothing in our societal order is uncompromised.

But calling gay rights political is a dog whistle that I hear loud and clear. There's no world in which I directly pay money into that kind of leadership.

On to the next...

scy, to random
@scy@chaos.social avatar

I don't want "regularly remind people that #Kagi is a bunch of libertarians" to be my job, but as people are currently talking about them more than usual, and many seem to not know about it, let me link to my thread from January about it:

https://chaos.social/@scy/111704636274463611

In short, when asked to not collaborate with cryptocurrency-powered, homophobe-led company Brave, Kagi's CEO responded with things like "Politics finding its way into tech is one of the reason we do not have innovation any more."

sesivany, to random
@sesivany@floss.social avatar

I've been playing with today and I've gone from skeptical to in love. I've never felt so much at the center with any search service before. I guess that's what a service where the user is the customer, not the product looks like.
I'm really considering paying €10/m... for a search service!

Marks, to random
@Marks@esq.social avatar

Anyone using #kagi search?
It has really helped my legal research.
The inclusion of GPT 4.0 and claude 2 makes their ultimate plan a good value.

michael, to web
@michael@thms.uk avatar

So, I've been playing with Kagi search this week, and I do quite like it:

http://kagi.com

I've been seriously fed up with Google's search recently: results full of ads and/or SEO spam, to the point that it's hard to find info.

The results in kagi search are overall good (though the map is really lacking), but it's just very expensive. I'd definitely need their $10 per month plan, and I'm not sure I could justify this, given there is free (though arguably worse) competition. 🤔

I guess I could cycle through the trial by creating a new account every week (the joys of having my own domain name) but that seems a little ridiculous, too 😆


bram85, to emacs
@bram85@emacs.ch avatar

Started a new #emacs package providing a shell for #kagi #FastGPT: kagi.el.

Of course, inspired by @xenodium's fantastic chatgpt-shell package. In fact, both use the underlying shell-maker package for the heavy lifting.

Still very rough, lots of refinements to be done. But the basics work.

https://codeberg.org/bram85/kagi.el

liztai, to random
@liztai@hachyderm.io avatar

Am thinking of going full nerd with Kagi. Am so sick of Google's ad riddled search results, I swear...

Do you use ?

bitprophet, to NixOS
@bitprophet@social.coop avatar

Getting really sick of painstakingly migrating to some Cool New Technical Thing With Superpowers and then whoops, It's All Ethics Violations after a while.

First #Kagi - CEO is a white dude who can't read the room when a bunch of users raise serious concerns re: suicide warnings, .ru indexes, Brave collab, etc.

Now #Nix / #NixOS - BDFL is a white dude who can't read the room when a bunch of users raise serious concerns re: toxic members, shitty governance, MIC sponsorship, etc.

scottlougheed, to random
@scottlougheed@hachyderm.io avatar

On month 2 of using #kagi for search and I think I’m sold.

I’d been using DuckDuckGo as my primary for a few years and it was ok. I did find myself needing to dig hard to get past the aggressively SEO optimized garbage and major social sites to get my desired results, and falling back to Google more often than I’d like though.

So far in two months of Kagi I’ve not fallen back to another search engine once. And I do a LOT of searching.

Turns out paying for search kinda pays off…

ScottStarkey, to DuckDuckGo
@ScottStarkey@hoosier.social avatar

I was trying to figure out what #EidMubarak actually meant. Sadly, #DuckDuckGo is becoming much more susceptible to #enshittification.

I'm afraid if I want a real #SearchEngine, I may have to have to pay for it with #Kagi.

I'm still a little fuzzy about what "Eid Mubarak" means, but I think it means essentially "Happy Holidays" to those who are participating in the feast at the end of the month of Ramadan. So, if that's you, Eid Mubarak!

slink, to random
@slink@fosstodon.org avatar

changed default search from #kagi to #mojeek. let's see how that goes.

kerfuffle, to SVMetaSearch
@kerfuffle@mastodon.online avatar

I found #Kagi too expensive, but seeing how every alternative has just proven to just be #Bing is making me reconsider. #Startpage and #Peekr / #SVMetaSearch are also down. #search

Taffer, to random
@Taffer@mastodon.gamedev.place avatar

Trying out Kagi https://kagi.com/ for a bit; @glassbottommeg suggested it and she's got good ideas.

I used DuckDuckGo before, but it's results have been getting worse, and they seem to be focusing on "AI" which is just going to make things even more useless. I haven't used Google in years, but I haven't heard anything good.

If it's good, I'll be paying for search. Weird!

#search #kagi #ddg #duckduckgo

Taffer, to DuckDuckGo
@Taffer@mastodon.gamedev.place avatar

Sounds like Kagi is partnering with Brave, which is run by homophobes and does all kinds of sketchy crypto-related nonsense by default.

Anyone know any good search engines that aren't evil or jumping on the "AI" hype train? Happy to pay for one.

I used to use DuckDuckGo, but then they went all-in on Bing "AI", so no. Mildly annoyed that I already paid for a year of Kagi…

#searchengines #kagi #duckduckgo

simondh, to random Dutch
@simondh@social.lol avatar

🔎 trying Kagi for the first time today....

#kagi #search

andycarolan, to random
@andycarolan@social.lol avatar

Can anyone familiar with Kagi tell me why my lens to exclude a site isn't working?

Specifically, it's my “No thanks Amazon, not today" lens that excluded Amazon from results... or at least, it should. But it's not.

#Kagi

ploum, to DuckDuckGo
@ploum@mamot.fr avatar

Leave Google now and help others doing the same by:

  1. Switching #Duckduckgo or #Kagi (using !g if Google is really needed)

  2. Creating an email account on one of the many ethical alternative while asking gmail to redirect all email received.

  3. Trying @organicmaps and adding your business information on OpenStreetMaps (opening hours, etc)

  4. Creating a @peertube account on an instance and uploading your videos there

All those steps can be achieved by yourself, alone!

#degoogle

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