jimmylittle, to VisionPro
@jimmylittle@hachyderm.io avatar

Calling all nerds:

Is there a non-Safari browser that anyone can recommend?

I have to access Confluence and JIRA. Confluence tables are basically un-editable in Safari on visionOS for some reason. Arrow keys don't work, and the cells are too small to reliably use look-and-pinch.

jakecarpenter,
@jakecarpenter@hachyderm.io avatar

@jimmylittle the only other one I’ve heard of is Lens. Will ask my coworker tomorrow and come back if he has any recommendations.

judeswae, to vr
@judeswae@toot.thoughtworks.com avatar

Pretty good video about designing for #VR.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fhlw88_Beu4

It talks about the flaws and difficulties of building #UIs for virtual reality applications. And offers a few paths forward.

#Design #Quest #VisionPro

jimmylittle, to VisionPro
@jimmylittle@hachyderm.io avatar

Working on my today as a "monitor" for my work laptop for the first time in a while to see if it will work on an upcoming trip. Thoughts:

  • why doesn't the sound mirror to the VP speakers? It's not even an AirPlay target, it should be.
  • Occlusion should always show my keyboard, even when fully immersed.
  • Working in an environment is kinda nice.
  • Universal Clipboard is great to move data between native VP apps and Mac apps.
  • Universal Control rocks.
  • VP needs ⌘-Tab
kaplag,
@kaplag@mastodon.social avatar

@jimmylittle wish I felt the same. After multiple times trying I’d rather use my 13” retina display for a day of work than have a larger, lower quality display that kinda strains my eyes after an hour. Just doesn’t seem worth the bulk of carrying around the Apple Vision Pro in addition to a laptop for things I could easily do on my laptop. But guess that’s just me. Curious how you feel after more days of it.

Also +1 to Cmd tab. Or really any kind of multitasking.

jimmylittle,
@jimmylittle@hachyderm.io avatar

@kaplag I'm gonna carry the VP anyway. The question for me was whether I needed to also carry my 16" portable USB-C monitor. The answer is no, I don't need to anymore.

So now it's laptop, VP, and iPad mini.

steveriggins, to VisionPro
@steveriggins@mastodon.social avatar

Took the #visionpro to the Apple Store and finally got to use my case. I adore this case. It’s so much smaller than the Apple one. I should have taken a photo next to one.

Bryan,
@Bryan@macaw.social avatar

@pixel @steveriggins
Which case is it?

pixel,
@pixel@social.pixels.pizza avatar
mitjahmeljak, to VisionPro
@mitjahmeljak@mastodon.social avatar

What's 's focal distance, for optical insert , for people regularly using 3 separate glasses: 1.driving, 2.computer-distance, 3. ?

Which one is it?
@atpfm @daringfireball

Returning incorrect/too strong Zeiss-provided inserts. Can't find Vision Pro focal distance information anywhere in official documentation.

mitjahmeljak,
@mitjahmeljak@mastodon.social avatar

@siracusa thanks!

Followup question, is the source reliable?

The eye doctor is figuring out what prescription to send Zeiss for a 2nd optical inserts order. For the 1st pair,Zeiss refused "computer distance",accepted "multifocal" prescription,sent me single-focal lenses too strong in Vision Pro:strong enough to use as driving glasses.

(...standard myopia+presbyopia, age>50 eyes aren't as accommodating in changing focus... is Vision Pro meant for young eyes only, despite what Apple/Zeiss say?)

siracusa,
@siracusa@mastodon.social avatar

@mitjahmeljak Unknown reliability. But keep in mind that the prescription you give Apple may be adjusted by some amount by Apple itself, for all we know. For example, maybe Apple wants your maximum distance prescription which it then adjusts down to whatever the Vision Pro’s focal length is. Or not? Hard to know anything other than whatever Apple recommends.

davemark, to apple
@davemark@mastodon.social avatar

"Apple Vision Pro immersive ‘Adventure’ video shot in Paris premiering this week ahead of international launch"

The limited (but growing) Vision Pro content reminds me of the "early days" each time a basic content is rolled out:

  • Renting VHS tapes
  • CD availability
  • DVD rentals

Etc., etc., etc.

These are early days. Way early.

https://9to5mac.com/2024/05/21/vision-pro-immersive-adventure-video-in-paris/

davemark,
@davemark@mastodon.social avatar

@kaplag Solid take. Obviously, I don’t know anymore than you do. But if I had to make a guess, I’d say the Vision Pro will get lighter and lighter and continue to add both features and content. And, presumably, there will come a day when two people or a group of people can share the experience more than simply being on the same FaceTime call.

kaplag,
@kaplag@mastodon.social avatar

@davemark Imagine proposing a movie night with a bunch of friends. How many groups of people today could get everyone invited to bring their Mac laptop or iPad to the party? I'd be kind of inconvenient for 4-5 people to all lug these devices to a friend's.

Apple Vision Pro seems more like a platform akin to those devices.

The only tech I know of where a bunch of people could get together and all have a device on them is a smartphone. Even then it might be a mix and have android devices.

johnmacintosh, to apple German
@johnmacintosh@swiss.social avatar

Der Ausverkauf beginnt, wer möchte gerne eine, aber Achtung keine EU-Garantie. Da kommen bei mir so einige Fragezeichen auf wenn ich das in einem Schweizer Mitarbeiter Shop vergünstigt kaufen könnte.

The sale is starting, who would like one, but beware, no EU guarantee. This raises a few question marks for me if I could buy it at a discount in a Swiss staff store.

studysnacksapp, to iOS
@studysnacksapp@mastodon.social avatar

Update Alert 🚨

Study Snacks 2.2.8 is out now, celebrating #GAAD with some sweet accessibility features:

  • Much better VoiceControl support
  • Enhanced support for the VoiceOver item chooser

Available for #iOS and Apple #VisionPro!

https://apps.apple.com/at/app/study-snacks-languages-more/id6444380323?l=en-GB

#StudySnacks #A11y

parismarx, to tech
@parismarx@mastodon.online avatar

Apple’s industry-defining products made it the juggernaut it is today. But as iPhone sales continue to stagnate and the Vision Pro vastly underperforms, the company’s long-term prospects look increasingly dicey.

My latest for Business Insider: https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-tim-cook-running-out-of-ideas-iphone-ipad-sales-2024-5

jplebreton,
@jplebreton@mastodon.social avatar

@parismarx i agree yeah, he wouldn't have dutifully hoed the "just make it bigger / thinner / more horsepower" status quo row like cook has. but he might've also been more irrationally committed to something like the car project. regardless, he was due for a miss at some point.

parismarx,
@parismarx@mastodon.online avatar

@jplebreton i’m sure he would’ve had some big ones! they still had failed services during the 2000s boom period, and the TV project that never really came to fruition as he wanted.

steveriggins, to VisionPro
@steveriggins@mastodon.social avatar

I filed a feedback about my erratic eye tracking on my #VisionPro and got some useful information:

“Unfortunately, the artificial lenses that are implanted during a Cataract surgery can sometimes cause interference with Apple Vision Pro’s eye tracking. This can manifest in unstable, or erratic tracking and highlighting.”

Damn 😢

kaiserkiwi,
@kaiserkiwi@corteximplant.com avatar

@steveriggins Soubds frustrating, but at least they know ofnit and know what the problem exactly is. So this could potentially be fixed in a revision or maybe even with Software.

davemark, to apple
@davemark@mastodon.social avatar

"Marvel Studios and ILM Immersive Announce 'What If...? - An Immersive Story' Coming Exclusively to Apple Vision Pro"

Vision Pro is 💰

If it was cheaper, this sort of content would def drive me to buy in.

And the M3 Macs, the M4 iPad Pro definitely are in line ahead of Vision Pro for my limited budget.

https://www.marvel.com/articles/culture-lifestyle/marvel-studios-ilm-immersive-what-if-an-immersive-story-apple-vision-pro-exclusive

danb, to VisionPro
@danb@qoto.org avatar

Thoughts after Apple iPad event with implications for #VisionPro: Today, Apple positioned iPad and VisionPro for professional use, including movie production and sound editing (e.g., FinalCut & Logic Pro on the iPad), and training (VisionPro). They also updated the Apple Pencil. Here's an exciting idea:

An issue to some with Vision Pro has been the lack of strong integration of hand controllers, especially compared to more gaming-centric headsets. For serious use of VisionPro's initial major pro app, Excel, I think it helps to use a physical keyboard and trackpad, which it does support. But that's not rich enough for many more advanced uses.

I think in the not-too-distant future we’ll see the iPad integrated with VisionPro like the Mac started, if not more so. You’ll use an iPad, perhaps with a Magic Keyboard, and the new Apple Pencil Pro for professional-level control. Having both a pencil, with squeeze, twirl, haptic-feedback, hover, etc., along with the current full-motion hand and arm movement in 3D-space, gives you the start of a very rich and precise way of interacting with spatial computing. Moving on the hard iPad surface could be quite superior to waving something in the air or using a joystick. The Mac is not for using a pen, but the iPad is. I’m thinking long-term, not just the current headset. The videos they showed of their pro-apps on iPad, and the VisionPro update which included touting a film director using it to oversee the editing and visual effects for an upcoming film, hinted towards this convergence to me. I wonder if it's true.

danb,
@danb@qoto.org avatar

Reading some comments, I think I wasn't clear enough about the role of the iPad. I was assuming the pen would normally manipulate things you see elsewhere, not under it. Like a mouse. The iPad could add context, but especially to add electronics and computing power to interact with the pen, and an appropriate surface on which to move the pen.

gbevin, to VisionPro
@gbevin@uwyn.net avatar

I designed the missing minimal Vision Pro accessory for travel, if you already have a great camera backpack.

This is an easy 3D print and I'm giving it away for free.

https://www.printables.com/model/870502-the-missing-minimal-vision-pro-case-with-airtag-su

Dreamwieber, to AppleVisionPro

Friends, I worked so hard on this. So happy to share that Vibescape 2.0 was approved for #AppleVisionPro and is out now!

An all new immersive environment, with a level of depth and quality far surpassing version 1.

Please share and review! ✨

#swiftui #vr #XR #meditation #mindfulness #zen #visionpro #apple #apps #indiedev #buildinpublic #design #swift

video/mp4

elkraneo, to VisionPro
@elkraneo@mastodon.social avatar

I made a list of all the accessibility options that are currently available on the Apple Vision Pro and tried to put them in perspective. Here are some of the first things I found
https://medium.com/@elkraneo/the-largest-list-of-accessibility-features-43e861d07e40
#VisionPro #a11y

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