drewdevault, to random
@drewdevault@fosstodon.org avatar

"Copyleft is less free than permissive licenses because permissive licenses allow you to make proprietary forks of free software" is a worldview that just straight-up makes no sense at all

RL_Dane,
@RL_Dane@fosstodon.org avatar

@drewdevault

The only BSD license apologia that made sense to me was #OpenBSD's attitude of, "We'd rather the corporations use our good code and not give back than come up with their own crappy solutions."

In that view, its a service to the community at large to help the security of commercial software.

Not saying I agree, really, but it has some logic, rather than complaining that the GPL is a one-way street (and somehow commercialism isn't).

ParadeGrotesque, to random
@ParadeGrotesque@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

Wait, I probably need to update all my #NetBSD VMs to 10.0 now that it has been officially released... 🤔 :netbsd:

ParadeGrotesque,
@ParadeGrotesque@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

Plus I need to do this soon, before #OpenBSD 7.5 is released, ot I will have to do all the updates at the same time... :openbsd:

tulpa, to random
@tulpa@fosstodon.org avatar

7.5 seems likely to be released soon. I considered switching back. But I just don't feel like I could make it a "forever OS", because there are factors which could force me to use something else. Either I get a new computer and have unsupported hardware, or somebody makes me use some software that doesn't run on it.

seems a safer bet for both of these possibilities.

josephholsten, to pfSense
@josephholsten@mstdn.social avatar
RL_Dane,
@RL_Dane@fosstodon.org avatar

@josephholsten @garyhtech

Maybe also a video on how #OpenBSD is re-licensing everything as GPLv3?

passthejoe, to random
@passthejoe@ruby.social avatar

How OpenBSD is dealing with the xz problem (as seen on the OpenBSD.ports mailing list). This package is not in the base system (it is on my laptop, though):

'Re: archivers/xz: update to 5.6.1' - MARC https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-ports&m=171174950828153&w=2

#xz #openbsd

morgant,
@morgant@mastodon.social avatar

@mattdm @passthejoe Why doesn't it inspire confidence?

xz is not in the base #OpenBSD install, must be installed separately by users, and even then is not used by ssh under OpenBSD. Per https://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2024/03/29/4:

"openssh does not directly use liblzma. However debian and several other
distributions patch openssh to support systemd notification, and libsystemd
does depend on lzma."

#OpenBSD has no systemd either.

tulpa, to random
@tulpa@fosstodon.org avatar

I feel like #OpenBSD isn't better than Linux for this kind of security problem. The base OS would probably stay safe. But most ports don't have pledge and unveil applied. And I doubt ports committers read everything they package. A malicious port will pwn your data even if the OS is safe.

mwl, to FreeBSD
@mwl@io.mwl.io avatar

Anyone out there running #freebsd or #openbsd on bloom.host dedicated servers?

passthejoe, to firefox
@passthejoe@ruby.social avatar

The OpenBSD developer(s) responsible for Firefox keep the package up to day in -stable.

#OpenBSD #Firefox

stefano, to FreeBSD
@stefano@bsd.cafe avatar

Sharing some technical details about how I'm setting up the hosted email service. It will not be a service of BSD Cafe but tied to my own business. It will run entirely on BSD systems and on bare metal, NOT on "cloud" VPS. It will use FreeBSD jails or OpenBSD or NetBSD VMs (but on bhyve, on a leased server - I do not want user data to be stored on disks managed by others). The services (opensmtpd and rspamd, dovecot, redis, mysql, etc.) will run on separate jails/VMs, so compromising one service will NOT put the others at risk. Emails will be stored on encrypted ZFS datasets - so all emails are encrypted at rest - and only dovecot will have access to the mail datasets. I'm also considering the possibility of encrypting individual emails with the user's login password - but I still have to thoroughly test this. The setup will be fully redundant (double mx for SMTP, a domain for external IMAP access that will be managed through smart DNS - which will distribute the connections on the DNS side and, in case of a server down, will stop resolving its IP, sending all the connections to the other. Obviously, everything will be accessible in both ipv4 and ipv6 and in two different European countries, on two different providers. Synchronization will occur through dovecot's native sync (extremely stable and tested). All technical choices will be clearly explained - the goal of this service is to provide maximum transparency to users on how things will be handled.

R1Rail, to random French
@R1Rail@mastodon.gougere.fr avatar

Quelles versions de xz dans les ? Car c'est dans le système.
en FreeBSD 13 c'est du 5.4, mais en 14 ? Et ?

borgbackup, to linux
@borgbackup@fosstodon.org avatar

Just released borg 1.2.8 with some fixes and a simplified TAM auth repo upgrade procedure:
https://github.com/borgbackup/borg/releases/tag/1.2.8

canadianbryan, to random
@canadianbryan@mastodon.social avatar

It seems @miodvallat's quest for faster syscalls on Hitachi/SH-4 is never ending...

https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvs&m=171156968417697&w=2

Previously...

https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvs&m=166209926816736&w=2

#OpenBSD #SuperH

pkw, to random
@pkw@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

@OpenBSDAms

I got my OpenBSD Amsterdam server details.

I think I'll start by putting my git repos there.

This is obviously initiated by the vultr kerfluffle, but I had been meaning to anyways.

I love in the terms it says you can't switch your OS to any linux :P
I can definitely follow that rule :)

bugaevc, to random
@bugaevc@floss.social avatar

Is Linux secure?

Let me rephrase, is a huge pile of C code, running in privileged mode in a shared address space, highly concurrent, using its own homegrown memory model based on volatile instead of the one the language spec defines and the compilers implement, dealing with untrusted data, implementing many complex protocols, data formats, & functionality, managing a bunch of "objects" with complex ownership and lifetime semantics, embedding its own JIT — secure?

RL_Dane,
@RL_Dane@fosstodon.org avatar

@bugaevc

Ooo, do #OpenBSD next!

RL_Dane,
@RL_Dane@fosstodon.org avatar

@bugaevc

WHOA. That's what they're replacing iptables with? Madness.

Don't get me wrong, I love Linux, and have done so for over 20 years.
But tell me you're an over-engineered, scope-conquering (because creeping wasn't enough) madhouse exaproject without telling me you're an over-engineered, scope-conquering madhouse exaproject.

God forbid we could just have #OpenBSD's pf.

secbsd, to infosec Spanish
@secbsd@exquisite.social avatar
wtfismyip, to FreeBSD
@wtfismyip@gnu.gl avatar

This #openbsd and #freebsd vuln in NFS is going to be interesting: https://www.signedness.org/t2.fi.2024/ #infosec

mattl, to random
@mattl@social.coop avatar

Rare opportunity to reply with software!

Thinking about writing up some usage of esoteric/under appreciated operating systems.

  • Please do suggest some that will run on either: a standard amd64 PC or a Raspberry Pi 4. Not interested in virtual machines.

  • Please do not suggest: Windows, macOS, Ubuntu/Debian/Fedora Linux or things based on them (like Kubuntu, or Linux Mint)

Please boost this so I can get lots of good replies.

RL_Dane,
@RL_Dane@fosstodon.org avatar

@royal @mattl

#OpenBSD is a nice classic Unix. Also #NetBSD. #FreeBSD is great, but it feels like it's in between the other BSDs and Linux.

Also check out #Haiku on x86/x86_64. Very neat OS.

dsp, to FreeBSD
@dsp@social.sdf.org avatar

@stefano
It seems both and might have vulnerabilities in their NFS implementation according to the https://t2.fi/schedule/2024/
presentation from the guys from signedness.org. Just bringing this to your attention since you run public facing services. Now i'm patiently waiting till Apr 18 to learn more about it :)

vermaden, to news
@vermaden@bsd.cafe avatar

Latest 𝗩𝗮𝗹𝘂𝗮𝗯𝗹𝗲 𝗡𝗲𝘄𝘀 - 𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟰/𝟬𝟯/𝟮𝟱 (Valuable News - 2024/03/25) available.

https://vermaden.wordpress.com/2024/03/25/valuable-news-2024-03-25/

Past releases: https://vermaden.wordpress.com/news/

#verblog #vernews #news #bsd #freebsd #openbsd #netbsd #linux #unix #zfs #opnsense #ghostbsd #solaris #vermadenday

ParadeGrotesque, to random
@ParadeGrotesque@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

I have to note that Marc Espie (a Frenchman) wrote a tool named "proot" (ports chroot builder) for #openbsd and I can't stop laughing.

For reasons best left unexplained to non French speakers.

https://man.openbsd.org/OpenBSD-7.4/man1/proot.1

passthejoe, (edited ) to fedora
@passthejoe@ruby.social avatar

My 7-year-old laptop runs as if it's new. Thanks #Fedora (and #Debian and #OpenBSD)

#linux #bsd

RL_Dane,
@RL_Dane@fosstodon.org avatar

@passthejoe

#Winning!!!

I love #OpenBSD on my 14-year old #ThinkPad ;)

RL_Dane, (edited ) to random
@RL_Dane@fosstodon.org avatar

File this under "Why didn't I do this years ago??":

function msleep {
if echo "$1" | grep -qE "^[0-9]+$"; then
sleep $(($1*60));
else
sleep;
fi
}

cc: @amin

I'll probably do an hsleep, too.

#TIL that GNU sleep takes [hms] suffixes. The function is stil good for #OpenBSD though. #FreeBSD's sleep mimics the same behavior, which is nice.

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