hack13, to fediverse
@hack13@cyberfurz.social avatar

Yooo, please don't follow @hack13 it is just for testing some @FurryFediverse code I am working on to support #Misskey #Calckey instances :blobfoxgooglyholdingitsheadinitshands:

tchambers, to internet

Lots of good discussion on #BlueSky and #Fediverse going on. These four questions dominate my thinking:

  1. Can the ATProtocol really scale and federate? This is a very open question.

  2. Can BlueSky's ATProtocol moderation work at scale? Or even NOT at scale? Blurry still.

  3. Can the #Fediverse and #Mastodon improve its UX and UI experiences faster than the these first two things occur?

Lastly:

  1. How quickly do robust Fediverse/ATProtocol bridges emerge?

cc: @activitypubblueskybridge

Bigou,

@tchambers @activitypubblueskybridge Please, stop speaking of the #Fediverse like it was only #Mastodon. Even if you limit yourself to #microblogging, the Fediverse is larger than that! If you don't believe me, go take a look at #Misskey & it's fork #Calckey, #Plemora or even one of the numerous #forks of Mastodon.

Bigou,

@vruz @tchambers @activitypubblueskybridge Again, there is far more to the #Fediverse than just #Mastodon, and I'm NOT speaking of its forks. #Misskey was here 2 years before Masto, we also have #Plemora & #Calckey, neither of which are based on Mastodon. (In fact, Calckey is a fork of Misskey)

cliffwade, (edited ) to fediverse
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  • ryedai,

    @cliffwade

    Hmm.. #fediverse #accounts ..

    *mastodon.social
    *pb.todon.de
    *blog.fedi.tech (#writefreely)
    *pixlfed.de
    *plasmatrap.com (#calckey)
    *im-in.space (#glitchfork)

    These are the most important ones iirc.
    (I have a #soapbox & #misskey too, but barely use em 🤔 )
    The top 3 are the ones I use most often.

    queenslight,

    @cliffwade The main account I use is this one, while my second account is @queenslight, since I finally found a decent accessible interface for called WhaleBird.

    I am planning to join a instance too, for sharing random AI TTS skits I do from time to time.

    queenslight, to linux

    I finally found a decent #MacOS #Linux and #Windows client for #Misskey!

    Work still needs to be done on the #Accessibility side of it, but at least this one has keyboard shortcuts and much of it just works!

    https://github.com/h3poteto/whalebird-desktop

    ungleich, to fediverse

    We think #misskey is a pretty cool software and are looking for a good excuse to build up #misskeyhosting - anyone interested?

    elisse, to fediverse
    @elisse@mas.to avatar

    I’ve tried to understand what #Calckey and #Misskey are but I am kind of puzzled… are they like Mastodon forks? For blogging? I can’t seem to tell.

    atomicpoet, (edited ) to fediverse

    I don't think it's wrong for other Fediverse projects, besides Mastodon, to exist.

    Especially since so many of them predate Mastodon.

    #Misskey, which is what #Calckey is based off, predates Mastodon by two years!

    Friendica started in 2010.

    GNU Social is even older.

    It's wild to me that so many folks believe Mastodon = Fediverse.

    atomicpoet,

    People are really looking at the Fediverse with Western eyes and aren't considering the fact that in Japan, #Misskey is many peoples' first exposure to the Fediverse.

    #Calckey is building on what Misskey has already made. But really, Calckey is exposing the West to the world of *key apps.

    atomicpoet,

    I just re-posted the previous post to misskey.io.

    Immediately, the emoji reactions are hilarious.

    You got to love #Misskey.

    https://misskey.io/notes/9eemu9jz0o

    paulschoe,
    @paulschoe@mastodon.world avatar

    For people who are used to *key instances, I can imagine that they see Mastodon as a quick rip-off 😂😂😂.

    Interesting to know that #Misskey PREDATES Mastodon by 2 years. We really look with Western eyes.

    @atomicpoet

    atomicpoet, to fediverse

    Today is the day I talk about what #Calckey is and what it does. 🧵

    In this thread, I will explore what I believe to be the most important features of Calckey.

    SPOILER ALERT: While Calckey focuses on microblogging, that's where its similarities with #Mastodon (and #Twitter) end.

    @fediversenews

    queenslight,

    @atomicpoet They’re also on #Misskey too.

    Hmmm, so that’s why they are called channels. Interesting!

    atomicpoet,

    @LabSpokane @ai6yr Actually, #Calckey is a fork of #Misskey, which predates Mastodon by two years.

    The *key apps, as they are known, are the 2nd largest platform on the Fediverse.

    And no, there isn't "one good thing" on the Fediverse -- there are many. That's the point of the Fediverse. Mastodon is but one portion of this.

    If Mastodon works for you, great. But some people would prefer a different UI, or to have different features, or to interact with a different culture.

    atomicpoet,

    @jupiter_rowland @nyquildotorg You're right about that. When I've come to #Calckey, I realize that there's so much that need explaining.

    #Misskey Hub has some documentation, and that helps. But now that #Calckey has diverged, it needs to do the same.

    https://misskey-hub.net/en/

    queenslight, to fediverse

    Eh there! @MonaApp

    Do you have a current list of supported platforms that your app supports somewhere?

    queenslight,

    @MonaApp Sadly, and/or isn’t.

    At least the instance I’m on over there isn’t. Unless I’m missing something?

    @queenslight

    , is the only Misskey instance I’m on. It gives me a 404 every time I try to connect using Mona.

    No worries if it’s not supported currently.

    frumble, to random German
    @frumble@chaos.social avatar

    #Calckey nennt Posts (bei uns 'inoffiziell' Tröts) "Notes/Notizen" und das finde ich recht fragwürdig.

    MagicLike,
    @MagicLike@mstdn.social avatar

    @frumble Das kommt ursprünglich von #Misskey, nicht von #Calckey...

    atomicpoet, to fediversenews

    This take is annoying.

    But it's also not entirely @gruber's fault because the media doesn't really talk about the Fediverse, and when they do, it's as a synonym for "Mastodon".

    How would @gruber know about the massive development efforts to build more user-friendly alternatives to Mastodon?

    No one in the media talks about the growth of *key apps, and how they're now the #2 most used Fediverse platform.

    That story isn't being told.

    https://mastodon.social/@gruber/110314382066961654

    @fediversenews

    csolisr,

    @MetalSamurai @markrprior @maegul @atomicpoet

    The main reason why I can't move from my current installation to anything else ( , , , or ) is that none of them accept importing an existing backup from a different service into a brand-new account. At most you can migrate your address but not your posts.

    atomicpoet,

    @ahriboy @ehattswank @j_bertolotti And further to that @thatonecalculator was the one who started the project.

    @thatonecalculator + = Calckey

    atomicpoet, to random

    Here's a feature comparison of Calckey and Mastodon.

    This handy chart not only compares Calckey with Mastodon, but all the well-known Fediverse microblogging software with each other.

    But a chart can only tell you so much. If you really want to know what makes Calckey different from Mastodon, you have to try it.

    If you want to know more about Calckey, visit this site:

    https://calckey.org/

    darnell,
    @darnell@one.darnell.one avatar

    @atomicpoet Huh‽ #Misskey & #Mastodon have search.

    Misskey turns their off by default (you can easily turn it on within settings) & Mastodon requires you to implement the #ElasticSearch code on your instance. I use search on both of my solo instances.

    Misskey does not have an official app, but #MissRirica replicates most (if not all) of the options on the web interface (something most official apps on other platforms can not do yet).

    sparkit, to fediverse

    Is there a list of Misskey (or I guess other *key software) hotkeys?

    Someway I was able to switch from dark to light mode writing something which is very useful but I don't know how I did it 😅 #shortcuts #hotkeys #misskey #calckey #feditips

    atomicpoet, to random

    I’d like to thank everyone on calckey.social for the overwhelming love and support.

    When I woke up this morning, I had no idea that interest in #Calckey would pick up this much. It’s been a challenge getting everything up to our preferred standard, but we’ve made significant progress.

    I’d also like to thank all the other Calckey servers who’ve picked up our slack. And the entire dev team deserves praise for making software that so many people love.

    I’m overwhelmed by the response!

    queenslight,

    @atomicpoet @atomicpoet Nice, thanks for the link!

    Scared that nothing will get done, considering no one from #Misskey has responded to a similar #Accessibility ticket:

    https://github.com/misskey-dev/misskey/issues/10702#issue-1680197577

    TheSteve0, to fediverse
    @TheSteve0@data-folks.masto.host avatar

    I am not understanding what #calckey is.

    1. It seems like it is a rewrite/alternative server to the mastodon server. Looks to be written in Rust. It is a fork of #misskey, which seems to be written in typsescript
    2. But since it uses ActvityPub, it's interoperable with Mastodon
    3. Seems like you can't migrate your Mastodon account over.

    So basically an alternative microblogging interface to the fediverse with different server software.

    This is getting really interesting and 🤯

    ivan18rod, to fediverse

    I have an announcement for all Sakurajima (.moe and .social), Urusai.social, and Miruku.cafe users!

    I just learned something that every #fediverse citizen user should know: When looking at a post or profile from an external instance that is not using the same platform as your instance, you should look at that post or profile on that instance. The reason why that is so important to know is because that not all instances will not display the complete post or profile of an external instance.

    I learned this earlier today while discussing a few bugs with @panos and @naskya, mainly about reactions not going through.

    I wanted to let everyone know about this because this is very important, especially since we're on different platforms: Urusai.social and Sakurajima.moe use glitch-soc (a variation of #Mastodon), meanwhile Sakurajima.moe and Miruku.cafe use #Calckey and #Foundkey (both variations of #Misskey) respectively. With everyone using different platforms and thinking that #ActivityPub would transfer everything over, there's bound to be misunderstandings.

    That's why I wanted to let everyone know about this. #ThankYou all.

    atomicpoet, to fediversenews

    This is a big deal!

    I bought the https://calckey.social domain name in December, helped set it up in February, waited a month or so to get technical issues sorted out.

    And now it's blowing up.

    Most of the excitement has been word of mouth, and there's been a big groundswell in demand for #Calckey.

    This might spread *key apps to the West -- which is very important for the health of the Fediverse!

    https://calckey.social/notes/9eay2lkqiq

    @fediversenews

    Bigou,

    @j3j5 @MrLee @arinbasu @atomicpoet @fediversenews I may be wrong, but I believe #Misskey do it too, #Calckey simply inherited it in the fork that gave it life.

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