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hitstun, (edited ) to FloatingIsFun
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On this day 25 years ago, Bertrand Piccard and Brian Jones became the first to fly non-stop around the world in a balloon. They suffered multiple mechanical failures through their flight, resulting in a icy cold trip that was definitely not fun but historic for nonetheless.

By the way, how do you like my new two-column layout? Since we're very visual-focused, it makes sense to present Fedia's thumbnails at their full 380x380 size. I still need to make it look better on small displays like phones, and I'm thinking I'll allow more columns on wider displays. It's too bad my CSS doesn't federate to any other instances and isn't used when browsing by tag.

e-five,
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@hitstun that's certainly impressive to be able to do that with CSS layered on top of the site. Perhaps there's some stuff we can do to make it easier for you (like options for grid layouts). I've been working on using horizontal space more in places like shown in the images under the expand section this comment. Perhaps similar could be done for the articles themselves

Thoughts about sublinks ?

Is it gonna reach anywhere or die out like kbin and the way it is going i would say mbin ? They are also trying to dip toe in the microblogging platform as well and trying to use lemmy clients and that confuses me as they are promising some features lemmy doesn’t have so how would that and the microblogging part work out on...

e-five, (edited )
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Any clarification you can provide on what "this path" means?
Edit: Just trying to double check anything would be covered by known issues/roadmap, but it's fair to say there are a lot of issues.

e-five, (edited )
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I always think about the post I saw a while back that was like "I use KeepassXC, a fork of KeepassX, a port of Keepass". That seems very likely to be true in regards to the fediverse as well.

But I think that's great, as a contributor to one platform I don't necessarily see it as "one software above all", which might be bad to say, but more like we're all sailing on the much larger ship Fediverse, and it's been great to see so much back and forth between the different ones, for example one person helping get pixelfed's avatars federating, or piefed's blogs, which helped reduce page load sizes for mbin by 40%. It's quite possible we're all just slowly contributing to a lot of learned lessons for a yet unstarted software.

All that said, mastodon does have a ton of staying power, as you said. Once they fully support groups, and lemmy has stated they never plan to support microblogs, it's quite possible that mastodon will be a very solid experience for most of what people are looking for.

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In the end it's mostly an agreement on how moderation actions should and are allowed to propagate for activity pub groups, which you can learn more about here https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/1b12/fep-1b12.md#group-moderation

The tl;dr is there's a set way of saying these specific users are allowed to send actions such as delete on these specific posts, and software that implements groups (communities, to lemmy) ideally implement it in the same way. Of course, someone could always make a software that denies all remote moderation actions for instance, so it's always up to those implementing the AP spec.

Lemmy has a large userbase, so generally probably gets to decide a lot of these things, such as how moderators are listed when getting information on communities, and other software will have to choose to follow along to be able to work with the large userbase or raise concerns/give feedback if needed

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The lightbox image view now also has the alt text

This is great, so glad alt text is now supported

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Well this is as close as I've seen so far.

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Visa systems were down one day for me when I needed gas, and I decided then to always have at least two different types just in case (it also helps with other issues as I tend of get chip malfunction errors and stuff)

e-five,
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The defederation is one-way; lemmy.world isn't defederating beehaw.org. lemmy.world users can still see the community, and even still post to it (I assume, not sure if lemmy.world took changes to stop that but, as you can see it even has posts from local lemmy.world users as of 2 months ago, but the last content from anyone outside the instance is 7 months old). However, they will never make it to beehaw.org and thus won't be federated anywhere else (only users on lemmy.world would ever see it).

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That note was very interesting to me, because there's also Pulsar which is what I have been trying out, which also relates to Atom. I'm not sure if "fork" is the right word as I don't know the complete history, but installing packages uses atom packages / github sources so it's fairly similar. I wonder what led to this other one

e-five, (edited )
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The anti-unionization stuff makes me sad. They're really the only ones around here who carry vegetarian/vegan options. If I go to the chain store next door the prices are quite a bit more expensive, and all they have is a small corner of the refrigerated section of vegetarian options of questionable expiration.

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The reference does seem to indicate teabags, but mentions it a lot along side carbonated drinks (it also mentions "milk tea", but I'm not sure what it means by that)

Furthermore, there is evidence proving the contamination of MPs in teabags and it has been clarified that bottle-production and filling processes could contribute to the existence of MPs in drinks

I'm not sure what a good source is, but I do remember a while back articles about those pyramid teabags containing microplastics.

Edit: I guess to jump to the source of the reference of this article, this is the report on MPs in tea

e-five,
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Right now, Mbin does not have a way to block instances (the above poster may have assumed you were using lemmy, which recently adding the feature). Blocking domains works some of the time for text posts and comments, but for posts it's filtering on what appears in the () at the end of the post. So the original purpose was to be able to block domains like youtube.com or yahoo.com for example and you wouldn't see posts linking to those domains. Blocking instances is something that still needs to be implemented

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It's possible there are issues with it (it wouldn't be the first time), at least for me it seems to be working, if I block lemmy.ml and then go to where the latest post was made, that post isn't shown; granted it still shows all the posts on the /d/ page itself, that's no different than kbin at least from memory. It's when a lemmy.ml user posts something like an imgur.com link, that's technically under the imgur.com domain. It's possible that has changed since the fork, but I wouldn't think so as at least it seemed the definition of "domain" would always mean where the post was going to, and an additional level of "instance" needs to be added.

For example here's a thread of people talking about it not filtering things out. I imagine they were running into what you may be seeing. I've seen it brought up a lot with other people mentioning there is no true instance blocking in /kbin/Mbin, but am having trouble finding those posts.

edit: Do you have an example post that you would expect to be blocked that you're still seeing?

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What gets to me is the "Thanks in advance". I might be alone in this, I asked a co-worker and she said it just seemed like normal dialogue, but I interpret that as "You don't have a say in the matter, you will do this, your consent is not needed". Granted, the people who say this to me are my boss or director, so they're right, I don't have a choice. But if I wanted to be reminded of reality, I wouldn't play so many video games.

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This completely blew my mind when I saw it; I thought I had passed out and was dreaming about PSO2 or something

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I'm glad they look much better in game than the trailer one. Not sure what was up with the trailer one, maybe slightly small head or flat snout, but it came off as a bit uncanny valley looking.

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I remember watching people going through the story saying something to the vein of: "This seems super important, I'll be interested in seeing the payout later in the story". They'll be waiting for quite a while it seems (specifically for the cost she's meant to be paying for seeing). But they get around everything by saying "Ah, magic aether ink, of course". I guess the ridges of stone also have corner aether or something, I don't know, imagine they'll just hand wave most of it

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The spell effects look really unique/good

How are federated channels from Peertube moderated on Lemmy?

For example, this channel is federated from Peertube as a Lemmy community. If you look at the community’s sidebar, there appears to be no moderator for the community; is this a federation issue? I would assume that the channel owner is responsible for moderation (of comments, as posts being allowed is technically a bug), but...

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An ActivityPub group actor defining its moderators is a specific implementation of the AP protocol. You can find the spec details lemmy uses here. An Mbin contributor recently implemented this to line up with Lemmy, but whether other fediverse software do or will is up to them, as it's more of a community proposal than an official implementation of the spec. So when you see no moderators from other software, they likely just do not implement the linked FEP

e-five,
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They could, yes. Afaik no extra work was needed on lemmy's side once Mbin changed to report moderators in the same manner (aside from some kind of activity which triggered a refresh of the data)

However, looking at peertube, it looks like they already are using the attributedTo field for the group with a person, which is different from the FEP. For the channel you link in the OP specifically:

"attributedTo": [
  {
    "type": "Person",
    "id": "https://tilvids.com/accounts/thelinuxexperiment"
  }
]

It's possible PeerTube could change to make a /moderators endpoint and respond with that as the FEP suggests, or Lemmy and other software to change to accept this array of actor types instead. I'm not sure who decides these things or if there is an evangelist for FEPs, It's possible this was already discussed on the peertube github as well, I didn't look through all the past issues as there are quite a lot

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I think it's best to be careful with anything that changes the display of information from one software to another. That is, once counts start mismatching, people will only say "x must be broken, just switch to y", which we already see quite often, as users won't really care for a reason, they'll just assume things don't work.

I'm surprised I haven't been able to find much discussion on this yet, perhaps my googling is lacking, I was expecting an FEP maybe. I wouldn't think it would be that strange to have a way to have anonymous likes and dislikes in which the instance signs "yes, this is certified a unique like/dislike from a valid user". It's already trusting a lot of other AP events signed on a user's behalf, so it doesn't seem too crazy to me, but perhaps there's something I'm missing. But if there is an effort the wider fediverse might want to approach it might be best not to do the work twice

The other option is as you say, break off from the rest of the fediverse. Perhaps it could be opt-in? There is a slightly unimplemented, I believe, concept of private user visibility. Perhaps something similar where we say "You can like/dislike posts anonymously by marking your account as private, however those likes/dislikes will not be federated anywhere, it will only be local to this instance"

This is slightly related but one thing I've always thought about is it might be nice to have a warning on user registration like "Your posts are federated to other instances, direct messages aren't encrypted, likes/dislikes are publicly visible". I guess it might scare people off, but this is true of the fediverse as a whole. Before I registered I definitely learned more about AP and that everything is basically unencrypted and public and was like "yep, time to make a whole new identity solely for the fediverse"

e-five,
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At first: why is the issue not perceived in the broader sense?

I meant the problem of likes being public, not the problem of kbin/mbin not announcing likes like lemmy does. Lemmy publicly sends this information, yet it seems to be no issue to their users, considering the size of the userbase.

The problem I am having is: I don't want to implement things in a specific just because Lemmy is doing it the same way

But lemmy is no. 2 in MAU across the entire fediverse at this point. Of course it can be implemented how people want, but it will only seem like mbin is "broken" in that regard. I highly doubt people will come over saying it's working better on mbin when their posts gain no traction compared to lemmy posts as their max 20 likes from their local instance compare against the like count from ~1000 lemmy servers. mbin threads would likely never appear on a lemmy user's feed unless they sort by new

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I guess I'd like your opinion on my point about ranking. If mbin doesn't share likes of a post with those that can view the post, won't any mbin thread be at the bottom of sorting algorithms like top/hot on lemmy, while lemmy threads are unaffected?

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