nikita, to opsec German
@nikita@social.tchncs.de avatar


Are privacy and the messaging app still secure

Every year this gets called into question, yet rarely is the full story ever told. In this video, Josh explains what's really happening with these privacy and security apps as well as how it affects YOU directly.

, ๐š›๐šŽ๐šœ๐š™. ๐š๐šŠ๐šœ ๐š๐šŠ๐š—๐šฃ๐šŽ ๐™ณ๐š›๐šž๐š–๐š–๐š‘๐šŽ๐š›๐šž๐š– ๐š’๐šœ๐š ๐š–๐š’๐š—๐š. ๐šœ๐š˜ ๐š ๐š’๐šŒ๐š‘๐š๐š’๐š ๐š ๐š’๐šŽ ๐™ฐ๐š™๐š™๐šœ & ๐™ฒ๐š˜.

https://invidious.fdn.fr/watch?v=9ZLMDMk5rzk

danieldurrans, to Signal
@danieldurrans@mastodon.me.uk avatar

Features that I never thought I would need, and indeed still don't need.

  • Reacting with an emoji during a Signal call.

#Signal

TheLastOfHisName, to Signal
@TheLastOfHisName@sharkey.world avatar

Folks need to start using #Signal, #Threema, or spin up a #Matrix server.

We all gon need dat shit.

strypey,
@strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz avatar

@TheLastOfHisName
> Folks need to start using Signal, Threema, or spin up a Matrix server

... or an XMPP server. @snikket_im aims to make it much easier to use XMPP.

Yishay, to Signal
@Yishay@chai.kibbutz.gay avatar

so tired of #signal app. How can I criticize it when Iโ€™ve never used it I would like to use it. I would like to use it very much. However I donโ€™t own a smart phone. Which means I canโ€™t register a desktop app which intern means I canโ€™t use signal as even trying to create a virtual I machine running, android to download the mobile app to register my desktop app. Which failed. I donโ€™t care how much you improve it until youโ€™re actually inclusive. Signal is not a good app. You might also want to think about who are the people they donโ€™t have access to their own smart phone. Think about other ways for users to register without a smart phone please. (running macos desktop)

#crypto @signalapp #singalapp #telegram #security #digitalsecurity

eliasr,

@Yishay yes, that's a big downside with Signal and something I really hope they will improve. In addition to people who don't have a smartphone, there are also people who use a different smartphone than iOS or Android, like various GNU-like variants, for them Signal is also difficult to use.

I avoid iOS and Android phones for privacy reasons. Signal is supposed to be good for privacy, then it should work to easily register an account without iOS or Android.

@signalapp @Mer__edith

Yishay,
@Yishay@chai.kibbutz.gay avatar

@signalapp @Mer__edith
thank you everyone! what i have learned with your help about #signal #signalapp

  1. the signal company does not like poor people to have access to good cryptography tools. many people who do not have smart phones are not as privileged as western developers.
  2. lack of support for operating systems that are outside of the corporate two (iOS and Android). again lack of diversity makes signal lass available to those outside the mainstream.
  3. Signalapp does not support clients that are not made by signal. again reduces the accessibility to those outside the mainstream.
    if you care about secure communications i would think that you would care to have it available for all and not just those with more resources. adding the ability to not need a smartphone to use signal would make it accessible and much more secure. right now the easiest workaround is to borrow some ones smartphone. not so secure.

all the posts about how signal is so amazing read very tone def when many cant use it.
@eliasr @ti @nieral @tzafrir

ncoca, to telegram
@ncoca@social.coop avatar

So...apparently it's time to quit & ? Soon I'm basically going to be just here and on .

frog_reborn,
@frog_reborn@mstdn.social avatar

@ncoca

Matrix is cool, too.

ncoca,
@ncoca@social.coop avatar

@frog_reborn @chunshek I wish I could get some groups I'm part of to switch over to Matrix or Mattermost from Telegram or Slack.

finestructure, to beeper
@finestructure@mastodon.social avatar

I've used for several weeks now across , , , , and it's been a great improvement to the messaging mess:

โ€ข I've actually had an easier time keeping up with Slack than in Slack itself
โ€ข Initially I ran clients side by side but Beeper updates just as fast and I've since stopped running most except for Discord which I use for calls
โ€ข Even so, it's great to run it in parallel to Discord, because it's easier to text chat in Beeper while in a video call

pepicrft,
@pepicrft@mastodon.social avatar

@finestructure Iโ€™ll give it to you try again ๐Ÿ™‚

finestructure,
@finestructure@mastodon.social avatar

Another huge plus of Beeper is that when you set it up on a new machine thatโ€™s a โ€ขsingleโ€ข login to get all your chats set up.

Just saved me faffin about with 5 service logins to get everything up and running ๐Ÿ‘Œ

#Beeper #Discord #Slack #Whatsapp #Signal #Telegram

nikita, to Signal German
@nikita@social.tchncs.de avatar
Ooze, to Signal
@Ooze@aus.social avatar

Today I discovered that you can only edit a #signal message a maximum of ten times. I had been keeping a record of a series of events over a number of days and adding new info as it happened, hoping to be able to send a single message at the end, but it finally refused to commit an edit saying ten edits is the max.

youronlyone, to Signal
@youronlyone@c.im avatar

#WhatsApp uses the open-source #Signal protocolโ€ฆ However, encryption isnโ€™t the whole storyโ€ฆ WhatsApp and, by extension, all #Meta organizations know you sent something, when you sent it, and who you sent it toโ€ฆ

https://proton.me/blog/whatsapp-safe-private-photos

#Privacy #Security

danie10,
@danie10@mastodon.social avatar

@youronlyone it's the metadata, and lots of it, that leaks upstream...

signalappnl, to Signal Dutch
@signalappnl@mastodon.social avatar
anthroposamu, to security
@anthroposamu@mastodon.social avatar

Thread by @matthew_d_green on Thread Reader App โ€“ Thread Reader App https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1789687898863792453.html Telegram has launched a pretty intense campaign to malign Signal as insecure, with assistance from Elon Musk. The goal seems to be to get activists to switch away from encrypted Signal to mostly-unencrypted Telegram. Move to

kuketzblog, to telegram German
@kuketzblog@social.tchncs.de avatar

Der Messenger #Telegram ist fรผr eine sichere Kommunikation nicht geeignet - standardmรครŸig sind die Nachrichten nicht einmal Ende-zu-Ende verschlรผsselt. Besser geeignet sind #Signal oder #Threema. รœbrigens: Elon Musk ist das Paradebeispiel eines Trolls. Einfach ignorieren. ๐Ÿ˜‰

Wer eine Entscheidungshilfe fรผr einen Messenger sucht: https://www.messenger-matrix.de/messenger-matrix.html

#sicherheit #security #schwachstelle #e2ee #vulnerabilty #musk #durow

kuketzblog,
@kuketzblog@social.tchncs.de avatar
kubikpixel,
@kubikpixel@chaos.social avatar

@kuketzblog @Nake ja sehe ich auch so aber des weiteren ist dieser alte englische Artikel noch aufschlussreich was Telegram und deren Sicherheit angeht:

๐Ÿ‘‰ https://words.filippo.io/dispatches/telegram-ecdh/

blindcoder, to telegram German
@blindcoder@toot.berlin avatar

Mein Favorit ist ja immer noch Conversations, habe aber nebenbei immer noch Telegram benutzt. Warum? Es ist in FDroid erhaeltlich, Signal nicht.

Wenn Elon Musk jetzt gegen Signal hetzt und Telegram favorisiert, sollte ich doch mal Signal installieren.

#Conversations #Telegram #Signal #ElonMusk

Xiong_Shui,
@Xiong_Shui@toot.berlin avatar

@blindcoder
Wir nutzen seit lรคngerem #Session, Ende zu Ende verschlรผsselt, leicht zu installieren und zuverlรคssig...
@kuketzblog

kuketzblog,
@kuketzblog@social.tchncs.de avatar

@Xiong_Shui @blindcoder Session ist ein Fork von Signal, der dazu auch noch das Verschlรผsselungsprotokoll abschwรคcht und unter anderem Perfect Forward Secrecy (PFS) entfernt hat.

moellus, to Signal German
@moellus@wandzeitung.xyz avatar

โ€žDas Ziel scheint zu sein, Aktivisten dazu zu bringen, von dem verschlรผsselten Signal zu dem meist unverschlรผsselten Telegram zu wechseln.โ€œ https://winfuture.de/news,142780.html /via @WinFuture

jens,
@jens@social.finkhaeuser.de avatar

@moellus @WinFuture Musk is psyops.

thorgrimson, to android German
@thorgrimson@social.tchncs.de avatar

Heyho,
weiรŸ zufรคllige jemand wie ich den Speicherort fรผr Bildern und dokumente von signal unter festlegen kann? Z.b. werden Bilder aktuell in ~/Bilder/Pictures abgelegt.

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