christianselig, to random
@christianselig@mastodon.social avatar

Got off my call with Reddit just now about the API. Bad news unless I come up with 20 million dollars (not joking). Appreciate boosts. https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/13ws4w3/had_a_call_with_reddit_to_discuss_pricing_bad/

luc122c,

@christianselig wow, the NFT’s and avatar skins must not be doing so well; who’s have thought? #Apollo is orders of magnitude better than the first-party app. Unfortunately for #Reddit, that won’t change even if they kill off Apollo.

Imoptimal,

@christianselig It's unfortunate that #Reddit has decided to go a similar money grabbing route as #twitter.

I guess a #Fediverse alternative to Reddit will benefit at the end, and that's never a bad thing.

https://mastodon.social/users/christianselig/statuses/110464420566906146

enbywan, to technology in Death By API: Reddit Joins Twitter In Pricing Out Apps

@DJDarren I'm very much on the same boat as you... Have already started following Lemmy instances from my Mastodon, which seems like a weird UX but could end up being really cool.
Either way, it seems it's RIP #reddit.
So long and thanks for all the fish!

christianselig, to random
@christianselig@mastodon.social avatar

Pray for me, today is Reddit API pricing announcement day!

jgreen,

@michaelthatsit @christianselig There’s the Lemmy platform, which is the #fediverse corollary of #reddit . https://join-lemmy.org/

michaelthatsit,

@christianselig this might be naive. But maybe this is an opportunity to build a federated form of #reddit ? Mastodon is great but lacks the inherent UX Reddit provides (clearly defined sub-communities, user-follows-community, posts with cleanly organized comment threads, up/downvotes, a user-tailored feed, etc)

It’s something I’ve been thinking about for awhile.

viticci, to random
@viticci@macstories.net avatar

To be fair, I feel like Reddit should pay @christianselig $20 million to help them improve their shitty app.

Apps like Apollo have made Reddit usable for millions of people. This is an idiotic move.

https://www.macstories.net/linked/reddit-quotes-extraordinarily-high-api-pricing-to-apollo-developer/

crichton007,
@crichton007@mastodon.social avatar

@viticci @christianselig I’m done with #Reddit if they go through with this

adamjcook, (edited ) to random

Hmm. Interesting article.

@samabuelsamid, who I generally agree with, offers some thoughts.

@mimsical, who I also generally agree with, is mentioned in passing.

And, well, I have typically agreed less with Timothy Lee's thoughts over the years (particularly on -related topics), but this article is reasonable enough.

But let's crack it open and take a look at a few things that I think are iffy.

🧵👇

https://www.understandingai.org/p/the-death-of-self-driving-cars-is

adamjcook,

@CrackedWindscreen I will say this much...

Kyle Vogt and Oliver Cameron (who resigned from #Cruise recently) have zero business being around or managing #SafetyCritical systems.

That is not my way of "vindicating" #Waymo, of course, but those two have issued a number of statements (mostly on the /r/SelfDrivingCars #Reddit sub) over the years that really just made me throw up my hands.

bekopharm, to internet
@bekopharm@social.tchncs.de avatar

Hm… I don't do but apparently a certain site set a bad example with it's API pricing: https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/13ws4w3/had_a_call_with_reddit_to_discuss_pricing_bad/

Not the first huge player clamping down on it's API killing off 3rd party apps and burning bridges. This seems to be the nature of silos (or so called walled gardens).

If only there would be a solution to this dilemma. Something interoperable. Ideally without an API at all.

Like and |s or |json|atom feeds.

Ah well, will do for now 🤓

hypolite,

@bekopharm I have been made aware of this thread yesterday, because at #Friendica we have been toying around with the idea of a #Reddit connector (see github.com/friendica/friendica…) but it looks unlikely now.

Relyn, to internet

We had a good run #reddit

jimfl,
@jimfl@hachyderm.io avatar

@Relyn Since Mastodon started building steam, I am grateful that I use #reddit less. Now I’m even more grateful that #reddit has decided to footgun.

Good riddance.

codybrom, to socialmedianews

Reddit's new API pricing is completely unhinged. @christianselig, maker of the popular iOS Reddit client Apollo is being asked to pony up $2 million per month to keep the lights on for his app. Even if he restricted access to just his subscribers, the API cost per average user is more than he charges. Reddit promised reasonable pricing, but now it feels like a rug pull.

Can someone convince him to adapt Apollo for @LemmyDev instead?

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/13ws4w3/had_a_call_with_reddit_to_discuss_pricing_bad/

#iOSApps @socialmedianews

codybrom,

@socialmedianews

The pessimist in me wants to speculate that #Reddit knows that this move is bad and is doing it anyways because natural growth just ain’t cutting it anymore. When you take the VC money you have to deliver VC returns, so unless you’re the unicorn that prints money you have to find more creative ways of generating revenue.

This is the future big tech was always headed for. We have to help people get to the fediverse ASAP!

thegamerstavern, to internet Italian
@thegamerstavern@mstdn.games avatar

We could say that #reddit is currently pulling a Homer.

Or pulling a Musk if we want to use the updated version of urban dictionary.

Way to go!
/s

hazel, to internet

You know, it might actually be a good thing for me to lose access to #Reddit on mobile. I spend way too much time on that site 😅

SamCrawley, to internet
@SamCrawley@sciences.social avatar

Looks like #reddit is going down the Twitter route and killing off all third party apps (by making API requests ridiculously expensive).

https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/13ws4w3/had_a_call_with_reddit_to_discuss_pricing_bad/

I guess that's another vote for the #Fediverse

hazel, to internet

Post from /u/talklittle (dev of Reddit is Fun app) regarding API changes:

RIF dev here - Reddit's API Changes will likely kill RIF and other apps, on July 1, 2023

Sharing this because I haven't seen it on fedi yet.
#Reddit #RedditAPI

eay, to internet German
@eay@eay.social avatar

Reddit erhöht sein API-Pricing, wodurch die Third-Party-App Apollo jährlich 20 Millionen US-Dollar bezahlen müsste → https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/13ws4w3/had_a_call_with_reddit_to_discuss_pricing_bad/

@christianselig, das 1-Mann-Entwickler-Team von Apollo, im Subreddit r/apolloapp:

> „I’ll cut to the chase: 50 million requests costs $12,000, a figure far more than I ever could have imagined.

Apollo made 7 billion requests last month, which would put it at about 1.7 million dollars per month…“ → https://eay.li/3mm

bennysp, to internet
@bennysp@fosstodon.org avatar

Looks like Reddit might be imposing a huge API fee to 3rd party developers around July 1st. Here is a link to the developer of Apollo app for Reddit:

https://reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/13ws4w3/had_a_call_with_reddit_to_discuss_pricing_bad/

#reddit #socialmedia

armeck, to fediverse

Well, #lemmy has my attention now that #reddit is trying to kill 3rd party app access.

j3j5, to internet
@j3j5@hachyderm.io avatar

So it turns out free API access was just another delusion fabricated by the abundance of free money #reddit

haentz, to internet
@haentz@mastodon.social avatar

#Reddit always had a toxic stew of a user base, so why not go full Twitter? 🤷‍♂️

ipstenu, to internet

Speaking of APIs that are way too fuckin expensive, it looks like #Reddit is about to fuck over indie devs who use theirs.

https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/13ws4w3/had_a_call_with_reddit_to_discuss_pricing_bad/

The tldr is that Reddit’s going to raise prices on their API. That’s fine. Only the price is jumping super high, and while to an extent that’s fine, it’s clearly going to price out devs. $12k a month. Shit.

AdmiralFrosty, to internet

#apollo isn’t just the best third party #reddit client, it’s literally the only way I use the site. Anything else just feels bad.

I’ll be sad to see it go, but honestly I’d probably be better off without that on my phone.

derek, to internet
@derek@social.coop avatar

Might be the push that makes me give up #Reddit altogether.

https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/13ws4w3/had_a_call_with_reddit_to_discuss_pricing_bad/

@pluralistic term #enshittification comes to mind...

I wonder if the developers will pull an #ivory and make a client for #Lemmy or some equivalent.

Forcen, to fediverse
@Forcen@raru.re avatar

The @privacyguides subreddit is dipping their toes into the fediverse now that reddit is going to shit. They are now hosting a @LemmyDev instance on https://lemmy.one/ so I decided to join it.

Lemmy is a federated alternative to reddit so it would work similarly in that you can follow other subs even on different websites. (even on mastodon maybe: @privacyguides)
You can comment on posts just using your mastodon account at the very least: https://lemmy.one/c/privacyguides

The instance has restricted creation new subs but they are open to letting other open up if you want to join: https://lemmy.one/post/41

More about Lemmy: https://join-lemmy.org/

#lemmy #fediverse #privacy #technology #reddit #tech

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