Sheril, to mastodon
@Sheril@mastodon.social avatar

I see a lot of posts here about why the other social media platforms are terrible & is the one to rule them all*.

Personally, Mastodon is my favorite & I prefer the with decentralized servers & open source standards.

But I also don’t mind coexisting with the others. Rather, I think it’s a good thing. All of us should settle in where we feel comfortable & find community.

  • Overstatement, but a Tolkien reference always seems appropriate.
marqle,

@lostpanda @Brendanjones @zayathejew @Sheril

Well allows encrypted and unencrypted rooms - your choice. And to be fair so did XMPP before messed it up.

still allows rooms to be encrypted with if I remember - and there are some clients that allow

and both allow encrypted rooms in XMPP. Matrix just makes it easier.

Even had but not many people used it. Encrypted chat rooms are very old.

neil, (edited ) to random

Recommendations, please, for making an audio/video call work between:

  • a user on iOS and a user on Android

  • a user on iOS and a user on Linux

Messaging works fine, as does a/v between Linux and Android, but I have yet to find a combination which works for audio / video with an iOS device in the mix.

(Server is ejabberd.)

Goffi,
@Goffi@mastodon.social avatar

@neil if you self host (or not), works quite well, which is based on IM on and on . On GNU/Linux, is working, otherwise and should work (web clients). I believe they all work between themselves (for one2one calls).

Be sure to have an XMPP server with STUN/TURN activated (it's precious to cross NAT/Firewalls).

For the record, I'm implementing A/V calls in too, thanks to an grant.

pantalu_de, to random German

Welche aus dem store nutzt ihr so am meisten?

caos,

@zeitverschreib @pantalu_de ach ja, bei mir auch noch #Conversations - hatte ich ganz vergessen

ademalsasa, to foss
ademalsasa,

How to use #XMPP for beginners?

Sharing is very appreciated.

  1. Visit https://movim.eu.

  2. Register yourself an account.

  3. Login to https://mov.im.

  4. Add a friend's contact. For starter, it's OK to add me purplesky@movim.eu.

  5. Start chatting.

Note: #Movim enables you voice and video calls as well as photo and file sharing. On Android phone, you can try #Conversations to login to Movim and chat.

#Communication #FreeSoftware

kuketzblog, to Signal German
@kuketzblog@social.tchncs.de avatar

Nette Funktion: Der Messenger (6.24.4) unterstützt nun diverse Text-Formatierungen wie fett, kursiv, durchgestrichen oder Code in Monospace.

neimi,
@neimi@voi.social avatar
ecosurrealism, to Signal

Signal

  • is not open source
  • Is centrally controlled
  • doesn’t give you any option to verify their claims"
  • is fairly hostile to any other clients"
  • took money from the US Government"
  • seems to have a lot of strong and emotional advocates"
  • requires a phone number
  • exposes the phone numbers of members in any group chat.

#signal #openSource #infoSec #chat

https://blog.dijit.sh/i-don-t-trust-signal

ecosurrealism,

@ilyess that means that it is not open source. how come you believe some software which is dependent on a server which is not open source.. to be open source? i dont understand you.. sorry. end of discussion. btw use #xmpp #conversations :is_this:

ecosurrealism,

@ilyess that means that it is not open source. how come you believe some software which is dependent on a server which is not open source.. and a code that doesn't have reproducible builds.. an unsuable code.. how do you define open source then? i dont understand you.. sorry. btw use #xmpp #conversations :is_this:

Parnikkapore, to random

It's kind of fun™️ how #Matrix apps generally can only serve as #UnifiedPush receivers, and #XMPP apps generally can only serve as UP distributors

#Conversations being a UP receiver is... not happening anytime soon: https://pleroma.tbqdrn.de/objects/7f974a38-ac35-4f80-b10b-c00d704e2842 . Funnily enough, FCM Push is supported by Conversations. I guess the opportunity to reverse roles changed something.

That said, given that chat apps are already keeping persistent connections, Matrix apps not being a distributor is a missed opportunity.

jd, to Matrix German
@jd@social.ksite.de avatar

Ich bin gerade derbe am überlegen ob ich meinen #ejabberd #xmpp #server abschalte und auf #matrix setze.

Ich finde die Situation unter #iOS einfach unbefriedigend #Monal und wie sie alle heißen sind einfach kein Vergleich zu #Conversations

Grundlegend läuft ejabberd zuverlässig aber irgendwie fühlt es sich nicht mehr rund an.

https://www.messenger-matrix.de/messenger-matrix.html?filter=Conversations,Element,Signal,Telegram,Threema,WhatsApp

nanoelquant, to android

Just for discussion. I don't think that / was killed by big corporations and/or embrace-extend-exstinguish stuff, despite some harm could probably be.

First of all, it wasn't killed. It exists very well, but people rarely use it. I would try to outline a few reasons which could contribute.

  1. The "original" XMPP does not meet any modern requirements. People expect stability in mobile networks and other unstable internet, synchronization over devices and multimedia. All this was introduced only by later XEPs and is barely supported. I can recall only on and on among the clients supporting Stream Management + Message Carbons + Message Archive Management + Receipts + HTTP Upload (about Jingle - I wonder if it ever worked at all). Moreover, when you try to adapt it for your needs, you can easily end up as a troubleshooting admin - some things just work wrong or occasionally.

(To be continued)

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