thibaultamartin, to random
@thibaultamartin@mamot.fr avatar

I regularly think about this essay about the evolution of #centralization in computing. It focuses on businesses and research, but I have a feeling that the next stage of #decentralization will happen via the general public.

We don't have to rely on energy-hungry, leak-prone servers to run 24/7 to do our basic tasks. We need more local-first computing.

http://www.winestockwebdesign.com/Essays/Eternal_Mainframe.html

internetsociety, to internet
@internetsociety@techpolicy.social avatar

What Can Internet Standards Do About Centralization?

https://pulse.internetsociety.org/blog/what-can-internet-standards-do-about-centralization

A guest post from Mark Nottingham on our Pulse blog.

mnot, to internet
@mnot@techpolicy.social avatar

I was unsure if releasing an RFC less than a week before xmas would backfire, but so far almost 25k people* have read the blog entry, so...

https://www.mnot.net/blog/2023/12/19/standards-and-centralization

  • well, "people" according to an algorithm...
jtk, to random
remixtures, to random Portuguese
@remixtures@tldr.nettime.org avatar

#Centralization #Decentralization #InternetStandards #InternetGovernance: "RFC 9518: Centralization, Decentralization, and Internet Standards has been published, after more than two years of review, discussion, and revision.

It’s no secret that most people have been increasingly concerned about Internet centralization over the last decade or so. Having one party (or a small number of them) with a choke hold over any important part of the Internet is counter to its nature: as a ‘network of networks’, the Internet is about fostering relationships between peers, not allowing power to accrue to a few.

As I’ve discussed previously, Internet standards bodies (like the IETF and W3C) can be seen as a kind of regulator, in that they constrain the behaviour of others. So it’s natural to wonder whether they can help avoid or mitigate Internet centralization."

https://www.mnot.net/blog/2023/12/19/standards-and-centralization

Theeo123, to privacy
@Theeo123@mastodon.social avatar

https://www.techdirt.com/2023/12/04/decentralization-matters-but-why/

From Techdirt, a great article on WHY decentralization matters. it cites many other articles & publications, and is a good read.

#centralization #decentralization #federation #privacy

J12t, to random
@J12t@social.coop avatar

What's complicated about vs is that neither is the optimum. Not only is it a shades of gray thing, but any non-trivial system is likely going to have both more and less de/centralized parts.

The US transportation system that @mmasnick is talking about is a great example. Almost completely centralized traffic rules and road funding. Federated construction. But enabling decentralized, localized innovation in use and economic benefits.

https://ffdweb.org/digest/decentralization-in-all-the-things/

retr0id, to random
@retr0id@retr0.id avatar
kkarhan,
@kkarhan@mstdn.social avatar

@anedroid @retr0id @signalapp

Why would anyone want a solution to begin with?

To me stinks like and , because all is bad as it leads to .

IOW: Why does it need a fecking ???

gmate8, to random
@gmate8@mastodon.online avatar

Many problems (if not all) originate from #MonopolyCapitalism.

Or call it #centralization.

"It's Monopolies, Not Surveillance (Fascinating Cory Doctorow Interview)"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K85I9_jKgVQ

guardianproject, to privacy

We have started the second round of our partnership https://defo.ie to ensure that the new standard called () works for public interest use cases. We also are working to reduce the pressure towards inherent to the improvements of hiding the domain name. You can find more details in our project announcement: https://guardianproject.info/2023/11/09/defo-developing-ech-for-openssl-round-two/

Mer__edith, to random
@Mer__edith@mastodon.world avatar

Where I speak some advantages Signal has over the bigger richer rest of tech:

“We don’t have to be full of shit. We’re not a surveillance company. I’m not trying to pretend Facebook is good. I don’t have to toe a party line that is divorced from reality”

https://restofworld.org/2023/signal-president-meredith-whittaker-messaing-privacy/

kkarhan,
@kkarhan@mstdn.social avatar

@fla @anarchopunk_girl @Mer__edith @signalapp

  1. I doubt the security claims as #Signal refuses to allow people to make #ReproduceibleBuilds and provide the #Backend as #FLOSS.

That #Centralization makes it #vulnerable and just like @protonmail before, Signal will bow before pressure by authorities regardless if #CloudAct or whatever.

DO NOT TRUST ANYONE - NEITHER ME NOT THEM!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCx_G_R0UmQ

https://twitter.com/thegrugq/status/1085614812581715968

MarcusSchwemer, to random
@MarcusSchwemer@muenchen.social avatar

The strength of the Internet is decentralization.

The strength is sacrificed to our laziness.

#centralization

kobayashi90, to FreeSpeech

So they admitted that their Goal is not Free Speech at all, not gonna lie thats what this reply says in my Eyes. Sad to say that you lost my Trust.

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kkarhan,
@kkarhan@mstdn.social avatar

@kobayashi90 very simple:
Like @protonmail they act as a / solution and @signalapp not only refuses to distribute their app as so @fdroidorg and others can actually release reproducible builds but they also don't make it capable.

Not to mention their reliance of and in the and thus subject to as well as collecting and being thus able and willing to do on behalf of US Gov.

remixtures, to internet Portuguese
@remixtures@tldr.nettime.org avatar

#SocialMedia #DigitalPlatforms #Personalization #Centralization #Search #SearchEngines: "In recent years, there has been a noticeable shift in the economies of search and information retrieval concerning how the products of giant platform companies consolidate and represent facts directly in their search results. Concomitantly, media, communication, and information scholars have recently refocused on how media technology companies variably create, collect, connect, and commercialize data related to facts about the world and how such processes have implications for how we know the world. Such approaches often counter popular narratives that seek to frame the problems of platforms in terms of personalization and personalized content. While research on the personalization afforded by media is widespread, platforms also engage in the centralization of facts by merging web data representing factual claims and offering answers directly in search engines and virtual assistants’ results and responses (what we refer to as “fast facts”). These processes considerably affect how knowledge is constructed and shared in a networked society. This special issue collects empirical investigative research on the platformization, exploitation, and centralization of facts while offering a variety of perspectives from which to study these developments, including semantic and infrastructural techniques. This article provides an overview of this field and contextualizes recent media studies on search and information retrieval in broader debates around facts and truth claims."

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/20563051231195546

angelo, to internet German
@angelo@social.veltens.org avatar

Centralization, Decentralization, and Internet Standards

This document discusses aspects of centralization that relate to Internet standards efforts. It argues that while standards bodies have little ability to prevent many forms of centralization, they can still make contributions that improve the Internet.

https://mnot.github.io/avoiding-internet-centralization/draft-nottingham-avoiding-internet-centralization.html

#Centralization #Decentralization #Internet #Standards

Decentralize, to random
@Decentralize@dt.gl avatar

EY breach exposes Bank of America credit card numbers | #centralization
https://cybernews.com/news/ey-bank-of-america-data-breach/

gamingonlinux, to random
@gamingonlinux@mastodon.social avatar

omg so slow zzz

kkarhan,
@kkarhan@mstdn.social avatar

@mmmgaming @bison I disagree, but only slightly.
I'd put #XMPP first and thirectly then #Matrix.

But I've to agree that all #SingleVemdor / #SingleProvider "solutions" regardless if #Signal or #WhatsApp are bad due to #centralization.
https://mstdn.social/@kkarhan/110826849795552043

ianbetteridge, to random
@ianbetteridge@writing.exchange avatar

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  • kkarhan,
    @kkarhan@mstdn.social avatar

    @ianbetteridge No, #LinkTax is inherently bad because it increases #centralization as it punishes #SmallMedia and #IndependentCreators harder than it could ever penalize #GAFAMs!

    rolle, to fediverse
    @rolle@mementomori.social avatar

    The big contradiction of the #Fediverse is that people want e. g. #Mastodon to be more popular and accepted than e. g. #Twitter or #Threads but yet they are ANTI EVERYTHING; No companies, no this and that, no federation, "I will fucking block you all" for even looking at the mainstream popular culture.

    How is that going to work?
    Why so hostile?

    hackersquirrel,
    @hackersquirrel@gnulinux.social avatar

    @JustDalek_ @rolle
    It seems that the underlying fear is having #centralization forced on us.

    jbzfn, to random
    @jbzfn@mastodon.social avatar

    🌐 An America-less Internet:

    ⎧ A large chunk of the Anglo-speaking sphere I experience originates and is operated by American organisations. Within this sphere, we all feel any disturbances or changes made by the major players. We are all affected when an AWS data centre goes down. Our combined productivity goes down when Google publishes an enticing Doodle. Any dint to Facebook’s SLA and we all find out as it hits the mainstream media⎭


    https://www.nthbrock.com/posts/americaless-internet/

    kzimmermann, to internet
    @kzimmermann@fosstodon.org avatar

    I usee to think #Reddit was the least assholish of the social networks, but boy was I wrong

    https://www.reddit.com/r/RedReader/comments/13ylk42/update_3_reddit_effectively_kills_off_third_party/

    What's worse: can't even use RSS and text-based browsers no more.

    #redditapi

    kzimmermann,
    @kzimmermann@fosstodon.org avatar

    @saluki Absolutely! This, if anything, shows us once again how you can't trust #centralization. It was the last straw in having faith in Reddit, I guess.

    EvanHahn, to programming
    margio, to fediverse

    #Mastodonification of the #fediverse is a thing.

    As is the #centralization on (dot)social.

    Good or bad things? It depends on the point of view.

    Wuzzy, to fediverse

    Oh well, the official #Mastodon app doubled down on making mastodon.social the default sign-up server. This is a risky move because this will undeniably make the server bigger than it already is.

    It is still unclear why mastodon.social, of all instances, was chosen, while there are so many other instances. I'm not too happy with this decision.

    https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2023/05/a-new-onboarding-experience-on-mastodon/

    #centralization #decentralization #app #power

    jz, to Signal
    @jz@mamot.fr avatar

    Problems we are having with :

    • It is and will remain centralized (clear strategy of not federating servers)
    • It requires strong identifiers/selectors (phone#) to use
    • Author disallows distribution by anyone but Google, although free/libre
    • It keeps pushing away verification of fingerprint in interface
    • It relies on Google+Amazon infrastructure
    • Its funding is shady (OTF = Radio Free Asia = USG)

    = clearly unethical choices, unjustifiable by accessibility or technological reasons.

    kkarhan,
    @kkarhan@mstdn.social avatar

    @jz also @signalapp 's and as well as to enforce (as they collect |s) is inherently bad.

    Thus + is still the best option!

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