stefan, to Quotes
@stefan@stefanbohacek.online avatar

Is the problem folks have with quotes/quote-boosts that the person quoted gets a notification?

Or that the quoted post gets visually formatted as a post. Or both?

I see these as two separate features, and I'd be personally fine with just the preview without a notification, which is what some apps do, I believe.

FinchHaven,
@FinchHaven@sfba.social avatar

@stefan

Can't believe I'm even getting started with this again, because this specific point seems to be utterly irrelevant to all the men who want / or whatever you want to call them and who don't care how they're used

The problem is that women with opinions would be quote posted to cc lists of misogynist, incel males all of whom would proceed to brigade her for hours and hours with vivid, angry threats

I saw it happen repeatedly on Twitter

"Oh, well, she should just and all of them then!"

Yeah

Women with unpopular opinions should spend all their time on social media fighting a rear-guard action against woman-haters who are attacking them in packs

Or maybe never stick their necks out again, which is the desired effect

"Sit down and shut up, bitch, but fix me a sammich first!"

Feditext, to random
@Feditext@mastodon.social avatar

Feditext users: please follow https://github.com/feditext/feditext/issues/148 and https://github.com/feditext/feditext/issues/149 for complete native quote post support.

short version: we have a small set of bugs to fix and chores to do before an App Store release, and quote post UI will come after that, in version 1.8.

mima, to mastodon
maxleibman, to mastodon
@maxleibman@mastodon.social avatar

It has been zero days since someone said, “Why do you need quote posts? You can just reply and then boost the original post for context,” demonstrating a complete, profound, and probably willful lack of understanding of the value of quote tweets and how they were used.

(And also not showing a lot of situational awareness of how Mastodon itself works, either.)

I love you, Mastodon. Never change.

wjmaggos, to random
@wjmaggos@liberal.city avatar

Here's a great QT @Gargron.

stefan, to mastodon
@stefan@stefanbohacek.online avatar

Mastodon has added a lot of new features and improvements over the last few months that people have been asking for.

What are you all looking forward to next?

https://joinmastodon.org/roadmap

stefan, (edited )
@stefan@stefanbohacek.online avatar
vyr, to random

is there a standard patch for quote posts that works on mainline Mastodon or Glitch? i remember hearing that maybe Hometown or Treehouse had something that interops properly with Misskey quote posts?

maxleibman, to random
@maxleibman@mastodon.social avatar

Every argument about quote-toots, summarized for your convenience.

ANTI: We don’t need them! Quote-tweets were only good for dunking and dog piles!

PRO: What about [use case]?

ANTI: You can just [do entirely different thing that has a different effect]!

cassolotl, to meta
@cassolotl@eldritch.cafe avatar

I feel like it's worth mentioning, re; quote-boosts/QTs, that we can't "just add the feature to Mastodon" in a federation - it's a lot more complicated than a lot of people seem to realise?

The argument about whether or not we should add QTs is an important one, but once we get past that there's the issue of federation.

Mastodon is one software of many using the ActivityPub "skeleton" code. If ActivityPub doesn't have QTs in its code and Mastodon adds a QT feature, any non-Mastodon software (or even server) has to work out how to interpret Mastodon's QTs. If it isn't Mastodon-compatible, QTs will just break. They might even break in a way that harms the person being QTed. And what if someone on another server boosts/reblogs that broken QT?

Also, since we on Mastodon can follow people who are using federated software that isn't Mastodon (e.g. instances/softwares that look and behave like Instagram, YouTube, Facebook, etc), how does that work? Would people on Mastodon be able to QT people on not-Mastodon? How are the OPs going to feel about that? Would they even get notifications about it, since QTs aren't in the ActivityPub "skeleton" of federation?

And since we're a federation of separate servers even "within" Mastodon, there's also the question of how older/outdated Mastodon servers will handle incoming QTs. If you're on an older version of Mastodon and you follow someone on a newer instance and they QT someone, what would that look like? Maybe someone has intentionally chosen a fork of Mastodon with QTs turned off. Can people on other softwares QT them, and how would they feel about that?

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