liztai, (edited ) to random
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Learned a new Chinese insult today

脏黄瓜
"zāng huáng guā"
Or "dirty cucumber 🥒"

Basically refers to a manwhore 🤣

Follow me on and you will learn the best insults in several languages. This is 文化 (wénhuà, culture ) after all 😆

liztai, to chinese
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Hey Chinese-language friends!

So I wrote a funny sentence the other day:

我找红线 。可是我有黑线。不好啊!

Apparently 黑线 (black thread) is a colloquial expression that means "a feeling of speechlessness or frustration" and when I looked up Pleco, it says that it has something to do with the Cultural Revolution. Man, I went to deep places with that sentence lol.

Asking Chinese Mastodon - does black thread really mean this in the Chinese context?

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#Chinese #Mandarin #LanguageLearning

liztai, to chinese
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I've been a little suspicious that almost everything I wrote in Chinese, ChatGPT said was 👍 .
However, today my faith was reaffirmed when ChatGPT corrected me when I wrote 我出家。

ChatGPT: "出家" usually means to become a monk or nun, which might not be the intended meaning.

Bwahaha. Would've made an interesting diary entry though.

But what's encouraging though is that I seemed to have internalised Chinese grammar ... mostly.

ChasMusic, to LGBTQ
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I've been earwormed by this song a lot and I love the translation of the delightful lyrics, but I'm going to write the title as "Gender Queer" going forward as that is more faithful to the lyrics than the literal title "雌雄同體" (by 五月天/Mayday) and the English translation of that phrase is potentially offensive to intersex people.

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=-fNTly-Rpxo

#LGBTQ #GenderQueer #Intersex #linguistics #Taiwan #Mandarin #Rock #Music #TaiwanRock #MandarinRock #RockMusic

@music
@lgbtqia
@linguistics

ChasMusic, to Taiwan
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Earwormed a song that I'm pretty sure is by Mayday from their album Time Machine, so re-listening to that album to figure out which song it was.

https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ldnF02p8W3ToEHhVselCpTyp0B7A1fXA0

#Taiwan #Mandarin #pop #rock #music #PopRock #RockMusic #PopMusic #earworm #earworms

@music

liztai, to languagelearning
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Am continuing my practice of typing out Chinese words and using them in proper sentences. I suspect I'm able to do this only because I have a foundation in Mandarin, and have intermediate listening skills. So a lot of my sentences are based on instinct not on remembering grammatical rules. I plug what I write in ChatGPT/Copilot to check if they're right.
They keep saying I am.
I am feeling suss lol.
Anyway #Mandarin folks, do we say 风很大 ? (It's windy) It feels odd.

#LanguageLearning #Chinese

yingtai, to random

This journey through #Mandarin Chinese has got me wondering. Will there be a simplified English one day? Will there be some mirror image of me trying to learn traditional English as an adult, wondering how the hell people put up with this for so long?

liztai, to languagelearning
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今天我学很多字。雨,雪,都,用,可以, 找,那 etc。我要去花园,可是我太忙。
I wrote this without referring to grammar books etc but from memory. So,I plugged it into chatgpt and asked it if it was grammatically correct. It recommended a few changes:

"今天我学了很多字,比如 ‘雨’、‘雪’、‘都’、‘用’、‘可以’、‘找’、‘那’ 等。我想去花园,但是我太忙了。"

What do you think? Do I sound like a robot lol

#Mandarin #LanguageLearning #Chinese

yingtai, to random

I am charmed to learn that #Mandarin has a measure word for small things one has to be cautious with. The word is 枚 méi, and you can use it for eggs, grenades, and rings.

I've never heard it used myself, so I'd love to have this confirmed by someone else.

https://chineseedge.com/complete-list-of-mandarin-chinese-classifiers-and-measure-words/

elizabethtai.com, to China

The first time I realised I had a superpower was when I was living in Australia.

I was at a party where there were mostly Malaysians and Australians, and a lady from China was there. She could only speak Mandarin, so I spoke to her in my not-so-good Mandarin, apologising for my subpar command of the language. She reassured me in the polite way Chinese people do when you’re trying your best but not hitting the mark.

Then, a friend from Malaysia came over, and I responded to her in a mix of Malay and English – Manglish, to most of us.

Then another person came over to talk to me, and I joked with her in Hokkien and then switched to English when her Aussie spouse came over.

When I returned to the lady from China, she remarked, “You Malaysians are so amazing!”

At first, I was confused, because I was just doing what many Malaysians do and take for granted – context-switching and adjusting my language to the person I’m speaking to.

Then she said, “You can speak Mandarin, you can speak English. I’m amazed that Malaysians can do this.”

This may sound like I’m humble bragging, but this was not the first time people said this to me. I’ve travelled around the world when I was younger, and I heard this often.

Once, in Japan, the guide and translator who accompanied us said that the Japanese people were intrigued by Malaysians due to our linguistic abilities. I had the same remark about Koreans from another tour guide when I visited Seoul.

I’m not sure if they’re flattering us Malaysians, but since both tour guides were originally Malaysians, maybe they were speaking the truth.

And I think, due to this flexibility, a lot of people are confused by Malaysians.

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https://elizabethtai.com/2024/03/15/i-speak-four-languages-thats-just-being-malaysian/

#China #LanguageLearning #Malaysia #Mandarin

ThunderHoneySnow, to linguistics

I've got a seven-day streak going in both French and Mandarin on duolingo. Sadly, duolingo doesn't do traditional Chinese so I have to supplement with my textbooks from Taiwan but I'm enjoying it for listening and vocabulary. And the French is not Canadian! The app doesn't believe that 'bon matin' is 'good morning'.

#Mandarin #TraditionalChinese #SimplifiedChinese #French #CanadianFrench #Language #DailyPractice

liztai, to languagelearning
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If there's no stronger argument for the need to learn how to read Chinese, it is this! Two characters can have the same pronunciation and tone but mean slightly different things. I learned the character for person (rén) 人 and its radical version 亻as a kid, and now I know 仁 which means "humane", and the way the components fit together is rather poetic.

liztai, (edited ) to random
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I didn't realize that Malaysia is also called 大吗。 Definitely feels easier than 马来西亚。

liztai, to chinese
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How do I write FUCKING HOT DAMNIT in Chinese?

#Mandarin #Chinese #Languages

liztai, to languagelearning
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Hmm my handwriting is better with this pen. Today's diary entry in Chinese.

#Languages #Mandarin #Chinese

liztai, (edited ) to random
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A habit I am starting is to write a short sentence, like a diary entry, in Chinese every day. My writing is horrendous but this is one of the ways I am trying to remember the characters.

liztai, to mastodon
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On being Chinese but not quite Chinese enough. Ie, what it's like being a "banana".

This is usually for my blog subscribers, but I've made it available for #Mastodon peeps for a few days. ;)

#Culture #Chinese #Languages #Mandarin

http://elizabethtai.com/2024/02/24/hello-from-a-banana/

yingtai, to random

On this beautiful sunny day, I discovered that if I look up stroke order for the traditional character 肅 in three different places, I get three different results.

Taiwanese Ministry of Education https://www.moedict.tw/%E8%82%85

Hong Kong Ministry of Education https://www.edbchinese.hk/lexlist_en/

The Pleco mobile app seems to represent mainland China. Why does China have official guidelines for traditional characters, you ask? I know not. Singapore certainly doesn't. But China does.

Welcome to Babel.

#Mandarin

liztai, to Korean
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Have learned 100/1000 Chinese characters using mnemonics and memory palace techniques :). Apps I'm using to do this: Tofu Learn to write the characters and Du Chinese as a graded reader.

davidonformosa, to Taiwan
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🐉 There are lots of Mandarin/English puns circulating for the Year of the Dragon playing on the Mandarin word for dragon: 龍 (lóng).

Another form of pun uses lóng 龍 in Mandarin vs lóng 攏 in Taiwanese which means all/everything.

The characters 龍賀 (lóng-hè) mean "congratulations for the dragon year" in Mandarin. In Taiwanese this sounds similar to "everything is good" (lóng hó 攏好)

via Egas Moniz-Bandeira on Bluesky https://bsky.app/profile/egasmb.bsky.social/post/3kl3bt7htis23

liztai, to languagelearning
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So I guess if I understand this podcast I am upper intermediate when it comes to Mandarin? Unfortunately while I understand this podcast quite well, no way can I speak this quickly. It is so weird that my listening skills are soooo much better than my speaking skills 🤣

#Mandarin #Learning #Languages

https://open.spotify.com/episode/2yTrHGtm3tsfhRyxA6dpK2?si=3A6I5MFaSUqt_sz3KnN4FA

liztai, to books
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All the Chinese books I cannot read... Yet.

#Books #Mandarin #Languages #Chinese

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liztai, to languagelearning
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We're blessed to have so many tools to use to learn free. It has made learning the language so much faster and easier. Here are the apps and courses I'm using to improve my Mandarin.

http://elizabethtai.com/2024/02/01/the-tools-and-courses-im-using-to-learn-mandarin-free-and-paid/

liztai, to languagelearning
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Yesterday's favourite Mandarin sentence that I picked up from Draw the Line:

看你数钱的样子
Kàn nǐ shù qián de yàngzi
Look at the way you count money

aka how to insult your soon-to-be ex-husband 😆

#Mandarin #Cdrama #CDramas #Languages

yingtai, to random

It's interesting, what I'm seeing in the current Chinese Primary 1 textbooks. They're using Singaporean terms like 巴士 for "bus", but they're also teaching the formal pronoun 您 that nobody bothered with during my childhood, and so far I haven't caught a single concession to local pronunciation. #Mandarin

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