Gotta respect the doubling down! Replying to me posting some dude saying "Trump is worse!" then blocking me, with saying "Trump is worse!" then blocking me too! The commitment to the bit is impressive!
Listen, you can get as mad as you want. You can call Black folk criticizing Biden "Bitching" if you want. We're still going to do it.
The CDC under Biden dropped the Covid isolation period from "5 days" to "vibes days." Not Trump.
👴🏻 You don't understand what's at stake in this election! It's too important! You should be willing to do whatever it takes to make sure that Biden wins! Whatever! It! Takes!
👨🏿 If you apply that logic to yourself, that means that you shouldn't go around online telling Black folk "Trump is worse so shut up!" You should at least pretend to listen to Black folk.
👴🏻 No! The rules don't apply to me! They apply to you! Just shut up, vote for Biden, and don't complain about anything like I told you to!
@andytiedye@cam@mekkaokereke I believe there are a couple of stories of reformed trump voters so yes, statistically insignificant numbers 😀
I hate how it's all about the mythical swing voter and never about the disenfranchised, apathy etc. Democrats basically run so they can blame POC for when the lose instead of actually trying to win
@Paxxi@andytiedye@cam@mekkaokereke Parties court swing voters who vote regularly (yes, they do exist) because for them it’s a better use of limited resources than trying to turn out people who vote infrequently or not at all. It’s rational and not really nefarious but it sucks.
@Paxxi@andytiedye@cam@mekkaokereke The Poor People’s Campaign, which is non-partisan, focuses on GOTV efforts specifically for the people that parties usually ignore: poor and low-wealth people who vote infrequently or don’t vote. Mobilizing poor and low-wealth Americans to vote regularly and be politically active in other ways will be transformative for American politics.
@MisuseCase@andytiedye@cam@mekkaokereke I don't have any data to back it up put that feels like optimizing for what's easy to measure, not necessarily for what's the best use of resources
@Paxxi@andytiedye@cam@mekkaokereke It’s not hard to measure who’s an eligible voter but not registered and who votes infrequently vs. who votes consistently because campaigns and parties can check voter rolls.
It’s also not hard to measure the response rate/effectiveness of outreach to consistent voters vs. infrequent voters or non-voters.
@mekkaokereke vote like a black woman… unless she’s not voting for your candidate! listen to your jewish friends… unless they tell you they don’t want your war! oh, and if biden loses and trump’s boot comes down on their necks? they’re just getting what they deserved for not supporting biden more! FAFO!
the transactional nature of a lot of liberal allyship is really gross.
My understanding is there's a 24 hour wait once you're fever-free and feeling better, then 5 more days of "being careful (wearing a mask), so it's more like 6 to 11 days, depending on symptoms. not "vibes".
CDC did lump it in with respiratory illnesses and dropped testing as few people test
I can't believe it's 2024 and I'm still saying this but:
Most covid infections are spread by people that never had any symptoms.🤷🏿♂️
That's what asymptomatic means. You got Covid. You never had any symptoms. If not for a test, you would never know that you had it.
Eg woman gets sick, has cough and fever. Tests for Covid. She's positive. Tests husband and 2 kids. Everyone is asymptomatic but positive! She drives the kids to school anyway because CDC says "No symptoms? Live your life!"
@mekkaokereke i don’t think Biden is beyond criticism by any means. But I do think his Covid response was better.
We can’t forget that Trump just fully failed on all fronts. He put kushner in charge for gods sake. Just comparing the length of recommended isolation is not a good metric.
Biden managed to get multiple rounds of vaccine to any American who wanted it. Free. In a local pharmacy. And mailed everyone free tests.
I posted extensively on Twitter how in the early days of the vaccine, the most vulnerable people were elderly, fixed income, Black folk without transportation. And the folk that had the worst vaccine access were elderly, fixed income, Black folk, without transportation🙂🙃
Fauci and the CDC lied that Black folk were just vaccine hesitant when the truth was that by Dec, Asian Americans were the only group that wanted the vaccine more than Black folk. Black folk couldn't get access
@mekkaokereke I am surprised to discover that I cannot see the profile that posted at you. Maybe Hachyderm blocked them and/or their server? (I’ve been impressed with how well Hachyderm is run and wonder if this is an instance of Hachyderm taking care of things.)
@mekkaokereke I didn't read the blocked guy, but I do wonder if the prospect of things broadly getting worse is too much to deal with for some. Or, I guess they're just solidly bought into the team rhetoric that Teri Kanefield wrote a great blog about.
I mean, I had a good chuckle at the little Biden group when I caucused for Sanders, but I voted Biden and I'll vote Biden. The CDC stuff has been a shit show. Gaza too. Lots of good things, student debt and the environment. We can call out both.
@mekkaokereke 'Bidensplaining': To criticize Biden right now pushes a whole lot of buttons of people that will lose a lot if Trump wins. Detention camps, etc. & because it's the internet, many people can not tell the difference between postings from an earnest voter who supports Biden but is not happy with him right now from a MAGA troll using the 'voter suppression by discouragement' method. That's the rub.
Say something about voter suppression by "White voters who tell Black voters to shut up and vote for Biden because 'Trump is worse!'" suppression method?
Why do you think the percentage of Black men who vote Dem is decreasing? People formulate theories around this rather than actually listen to Black folk that don't want to vote for Biden. Because if you listen to these Black men, they'll tell you: Ignoring life & death issues for Black folk, while yelling "Trump is worse!"
At least one person will respond to my post above, not by reflecting on how yelling "Trump is worse!" at Black people online suppresses the Black vote, but by completely unironically, formulating an angry response to me, a whole Black man, telling me how "Trump is in fact, worse!" and how I deserve to suffer if I can't see that.
@mekkaokereke Hang on there friend, comparing the Biden CDC to the Trump CDC misses an important point, which is that it was in 2018 under Trump that the US office responsible for pandemic preparedness was disbanded, leaving us at much higher risk levels for exactly the COVID-19 scenario, and Trump recently said he'd repeat the same mistake if he's re-elected.
Whatever you think of Biden, Trump is actually worse, in all the ways. A selfish billionaire would disagree, I guess.
@mekkaokereke Who said anything about excusing Biden.
I'm talking about using comparisons that are fair.
But considering nothing Trump does is in good faith, and he's in obvious cognitive decline, I'm not sure why the one you outline is the conversation anyone would bother with.
Again, here are some comparisons that I think are fair:
More people died of Covid under the Biden CDC than the Trump CDC
Covid isolation mandates were more effective under Trump (5 days), and almost negligently ineffective under Biden (based on vibes and feels).
After Covid, the economy took a nose dive under Trump, in large part due to Covid restrictions. Biden chose to fix the economy, in large part by rolling back many of those Covid restrictions.
@mekkaokereke LOL I didn't even go into the link you posted b4 but now I have and you know what? Anyone who would compare the presidential terms by number of people who died from COVID is not a serious actor. You can't be serious. I'm no data scientist but why would we compare a data set from 10-11mos. data collection with another that was years of data? Esp. when we're looking at the spread of a disease which increases exponentially with time? Relevant metric: what was done to halt the spread.
If Trump had won in 2020, and then his CDC had rolled these Covid restrictions back, ended isolation periods, and watched the cumulative death toll cross a million, and he had said, "See! I fixed the economy!" I think that people's reaction would be different.
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