sushee,
@sushee@fosstodon.org avatar

what I would really like is having mastodon et al as individual peer to peer instances without any servers at all where I publish atom/activity pub for whatever I like, from "an app" locally. And I'm a volun-peer in a distributed search option to actually really find the good stuff I care about and provide it to others, too. we subscribe to individuals and topics again. I care about people, individuals, areas of interest, topics - not about sites or servers. and you toggle your own privacy model

jsit,
@jsit@social.coop avatar

@sushee This sounds a bit like #SSB #Scuttlebutt? @masukomi

powersource,
@powersource@sunbeam.city avatar

@jsit @sushee @masukomi a little bit yeah

masukomi,
@masukomi@connectified.com avatar

@powersource @jsit @sushee yeah. I love the fully distributed approach. The only problem is that in practice you still need folks to run servers that are always on and can be reliably reached to act as go-betweens who can pass messages between folks who aren’t online at the same moment, or can’t connect to each other at the moment.

I haven’t heard a proposal yet that really works and gets around that problem.

philsplace,
@philsplace@mastodon.sdf.org avatar

@masukomi @powersource @jsit @sushee

I personally consider the ‘pub’ part of activity pub to be a huge mistake since there is no requirement to continue trying to deliver a post to an instance that is offline.

Almost like that decision was made to specifically be different from rss, simply to be different.

masukomi,
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@philsplace @powersource @jsit @sushee I've said it before, and I'll say it again, Mastodon & ActivityPub look like exactly what they are: a cool idea that was designed and implemented by an undergrad developer with no experience the real-world requirements of messaging software.

Just happens that it's most viable option at the moment.

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