This idea that the US military is just gonna bomb Houston without the people in the Air Force saying, hey, wait a minute, I’ve got family there, is just stupid. If you think that US Civil War Part II is going to be over quickly and easily, without the same kind of grind that we had the first time, well, I’ve got some bad news for you.
While you do have a point that is also how every civil war starts. People don’t want to fight until they do. Lincoln was in command of the troops in south until he wasn’t. Even Ceaser had some mutiny because civil war is not fun. Scary part is it happens anyway.
There were people prior to the US Civil War that actively committed terrorist acts for the political purpose of ending slavery. Some of those actions arguably galvanized public support for a war. Such as John Brown; his raid on the arms depot in Harper’s Ferry was used as propaganda in the south to say that the north would never accept slavery, and therefore the “rational” thing to do was to secede.
We’ve already seen small far-right groups milling around the edges of terrorism; the Proud Boys, Threepers, Patriot Front, etc. They’re pushing the needle.
Expect to see right-wing militias committing acts of terrorism in an effort to push the Overton window. Abbott is pushing it now, with the idea that states have the right to overrule the federal gov’t.
This goes both ways though, doesn’t it? Texas is one of the largest tech hubs in the US, just after California. And a number of companies have been relocating to Texas because it has cheaper corporate taxes. (Screw them workers, gotta earn that dolla.)
There’s not going to be a Civil War. Stop believing all the posturing that Texas is doing. They can’t even survive a bit of cold weather (or a bit of hot weather!).
While I agree that the Texas bullshit is a big nothing burger, I can see scenarios where if Trump is President again and orders the military to do something unconstitutional some parts of the military refuse to carry out the order (as they’re supposed to) and other parts of the military (possibly not understanding the constitution) feel duty bound to carry out an order from the commander in chief.
Probably not. But you know what is going to happen? Abbot is going to stoke fears over undocumented migrants, and say that the feds refused to do anything --while he has been actively working to prevent them from doing anything–allowing Trump to say that he’s the only one that has a strong anti-immigrant stance. That gets the MAGA shitheads riled up and excited to vote, despite Republicans accomplishing fuck-all in the last four years, while Biden has managed to deal with a lot of shit.
And if Trump doesn’t win? Then all this shit goes to SCOTUS, which further weakens the ability of the federal gov’t to do anything for public good.
If you think that US Civil War Part II is going to be over quickly and easily,
Oh it’ll be simple. Any state in rebellion no longer has federal say. You’ll easily pass a law that punishes any company headquartered in a rebellious state, and you’re done by the afternoon. The oil and gas companies will personally coup Abbott if the federal government refuses them infrastructure otherwise.
Democrats don’t give a shit about the issues you care about, they just want your vote. Remember when Biden was gonna end student debt and raise the minimum wage?
There is zero chance of secession and zero chance of texas being bombed by the us air force
The only shooting will be gun crime and in schools, which is business as usual for the USA and apparently not really even that noteworthy given the level of media coverage.
going by Ukraine, which is the only footage I’ve seen of real modern warfare: I saw a video of a drone detecting a soldier from high up. The soldier is lying prone aiming their rifle…The drone drops an object. There is a small pop and the soldier dies. It wasn’t a big explosion, you couldn’t even see blood or a wound, probably just enough to be fatal without causing a horrible mess.
That’s what I imagine it’ll be. A bunch of people sitting around bored and they don’t even know they’re dead until one second they are looking at the horizon, the next second their intestines in confusion as their consciousness fades.
Yes and no. We played that game by rules only we abided by.
Had we gone in and stayed without those rules, it would’ve been over within a year. But then we’d have committed a genocide and would be ruthless savages.
I feel that’s some hubris chief. Similar to Vietnam the military objective was met, but the reason for war, and so the victory conditions, are the political objective. We failed those. And breaking our rules does not de-motivate the insurgency or move us to the political objective. Let’s remember that one of those is a democracy and US ally in government in those countries.
We did not exhaust all options in Vietnam either, we tried to achieve a near impossible victory while restraining the level of violence we could achieve.
I disagree with the sentiment of the OOP, but this is and always had been a bad argument. Take a look at the Middle East if you want to see what aircraft does to guerilla militia forces. An AC130 can’t patrol streets or breach doors. You need boots on the ground for that, boots that are 100% susceptible to gunfire.
Not to mention the fact that the federal government has lost command of the CBP, who are openly defying Biden’s orders.
The enemy in the middle east is ready to live in a cave and use kids as suicide bombers to further their cause. I don’t think folks accustomed to Costco and buffalo wild wings and healthcare are ready for that life.
I love a little bit of racism mixed with social inaccuracy. You’re right that people wouldn’t want to go without Costco or modern luxuries. That’s why they’d fight even harder when the people in power told them that it was the evil federal government that had taken it from them and that if they just fight a little bit, things will be better than ever before. You’re forgetting how dangerous of a combo that authoritarian govt. + uneducated population (which describes Texas perfectly) is.
Also,
healthcare
What Texans are accustomed to healthcare already lol?
I’m not being racist at all. One of the strengths of the middle east insurgent model is their readiness to live in primitive conditions. And, due to fanatical religious ideals, use tactics line suicide bombing. There’s no evidence prospective texan secessionists are anywhere near ready for such conditions or tactics.
Many Texans have insurance. Many Afghan rural folks do not. Census.Gov states over 90% of Americans had some for of health insurance at least at some point in the last year. (It should be 100, all year, but that’s not my point.) www.census.gov/library/…/p60-281.html#:~:text=Hig…).
The rest of your comment is comically unfounded. Are you really saying yallqueda is more prepared for combat than alqueda?
Well, look at afghanistan. B52 hardly made a difference against an army of farmers with AKs defending their homeland. Or the Viet Cong for that matter.
Afghanistan is thousands of miles away, our military has very little local, international, nor domestic support, and the Afghan people are battle hardened people that has been in constant warfare since the industrial revolution and had been trained by the very force they were fighting. Jim Bob and the boys, have no advantage. There would be some support from locals and some from the military but none from high up in leadership and not enough from the people. Comparing the Afghans to how things would go here is laughable at best.
Yeah that’s the only reason they’re allowed those guns, because any ACTUAL civil war would be decided by air superiority and armor. Honestly let’s do it, it would be hilarious.
It is not mental illness to recognize the threat of the confederacy or successionists. And Sherman was right. We should have massacred all white slave owners when we won the war.
He is also talking movie techno babble, with the exception of the shape charge for the tank buster. That was actually use in Afghanistan and Iraq, but the whole using microwave towers to take down a plane.
While his theory for the plane is sound he doesn’t know what equipment those towers have and there is no way to tighten the beam of a parabolic dish without changing the feed horn. Plus tightening the beam will not add power(in this case heat potential) to allow the towers to do what he wants.
What’s funny is that the people who are most into this ideology are also the "Screw you, got mine"s that will snitch on coworkers and rat on neighbors to the HOA. But claim the government is always evil.
Later they drive like they own the road and bully other drivers on (sub)urban streets, while poofing coal-black exhaust from their double-wide trucks and oversized SUVs decorated with skeletal middle fingers and American flag punisher skull window stickers. Let’s add truck nuts into this picture too, it’s statistically not-unlikely.
They have some fantasy that a bunch of self-absorbed hyper-individualist misanthropes just like them are going to somehow cohesively band together to fight…the federal government…over… petty stupid things like manufactured culture wars…so that they can achieve a miserable little hate-driven utopia…? Do I got that right?
Meanwhile, neighborly, responsible, quiet, trained, community-minded gun owners will gladly organize amongst themselves to aid inevitable victims of all this nonsense, and would fare a heckuva lot better as a group.
They’re the ones that would make foreign invaders or overstepping republics think twice.
These arterial-grease-ridden LARPers are being used so hard and they think it’s all their idea.
As their disgraced and treasonous Great Leader™ might tweet:
To be fair, there is a major difference between jungle in Vietnam and forests in Texas. From my understanding there are some pretty rugged swamps and marshes in Texas, but the majority of it is just normal woodlands. That’s putting aside that the vast majority of Texas overall is flatland that would be perfect for heavy vehicles and bombing.
Below is a map of the regions of Texas, pretty much the dark green, light green, and south east yellow sections would have any significant geographic impact on the military.
It’s always funny to see those secessionist traitors act like we’re all going to be on their side. A lot of us gun toting Texans have no problem fighting for our nation against the traitors in our state.
American gun owners don’t challenge the government. They take their anger out on women and children and themselves at the very end. The government will be fine.
Not gonna lie the Socialist Rifle Association actually seems pretty even-keeled…but grain of salt when literally anything looks sane next to the NRA lol.
I think they mostly just keep their heads down in general. Pretty understandable given the traditional behavior of the American government, it’s be chill or start blasting.
Bruh I’m a gun owner for sport, don’t lump me in with the stupid crowd. I don’t care if I couldn’t own guns anymore, I’d just find a different hobby. I’m sure as shit not coming to the rescue of Texas
I own guns. I like guns. I find them very fun. I’ll wave goodbye to Texas in a heartbeat.
I can’t stand the people who make guns their identity. They remind me of the potheads who have rasta flags, pit leaves on everything, and listen to Bob Marley nonstop.
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