> Just as GitHub was founded on Git, today we are re-founded on Copilot. 🤖 See how GitHub’s AI-powered platform vision evolved into a new reality for the world’s developers, and find out everything we announced at this year’s #GitHubUniverse. https://nitter.net/github/status/1722309261680607674?s=20
For years I've been saying that using Microsoft GitHub to host #FLOSS code is dangerous and would backfire. :blobcatcoffee:
@rysiek I remember when I told few of my friends that I don't trust GitHub under Microsoft. They laughed it off and asked what would happen? I told them two things:
Microsoft does not love open source. Microsoft loves outsourcing via permissive licensing.
Microsoft will fuck you over once the opportunity manifests.
Now let's hope legal actions will render this tech incomercializable.
@PiTau@rysiek@dalias I'm not sure this really qualifies as "fuck you over"? The platform you rely on is still there and functioning as before.
I think this is more of the general disdain for IP rights that the whole AI industry runs on. Not saying it's good, it's not, but your code is part of someones AI offering if it's public on the internet.
@Paxxi@rysiek@dalias GPL places some restrictions to combat close sourcing ones code. People use GPL to guard their work from freeloading closed source projects.
In this case copilot seems to be a GPL stripper, hence fucking over everyone using GPL family licenses. Actually any licenses including all rights reserved, because copilot generates public domain code.
@dalias@PiTau@rysiek yeah, the AI is definitely bad. My point is mainly that all the AI players steal your code wherever it is hosted as long as it is publicly available
Thing is, I would have much less problem with all this if not for the fact that independent DJs were slapped hard for sampling musing ~20 years ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Copy_Bad_Copy
So if you're a small-time DJ sampling 1s of some song in a way that it's not recognizable, you are a Criminal Enterprise. But if you're Microsoft taking all of the FLOSS code and regurgitating it, sometimes byte-for-byte, that's fine and dandy? Fuck that.
This is is system wrecking. AI is theft. Letting the rich profit off the stuff they stole from us, are stealing, is system ending.
Counterfeit money systems, intellectual property theft, bit$ and AI, the rich shouldn't need such break and entre tools, crime systems, to stay on top, in control, so whats happening?
These are trust removing, every system needs acceptance to operate. These crime tools, trillion dollar crime tools, are ending trust.
@rysiek@gvlx@Paxxi@dalias and ironic. Corporation built upon copyright protected closed software gets a blow from copyleft movement claiming copyright breach.
@PiTau@rysiek Sadly I've yet to see a better option that does scale and isn't maintained by Stallmanists...
I'd consider migrating away from #GitHub if it provides actual benefits and not just being a pain in the ass to do and basically shift said repos to be slaves.
@rysiek@PiTau They are a problem because people like RMS are why shit's stagnating and regressing!
He's a sexist POS and all he does is saying "why [insert anything] is bad" on his 1999 Homepage yet doesn't even bother to point to better alternatives (okay, paywalling toilets is just evil, just don't but that's not the point here)...
Shure I could spin up a #GitLab but then try to find some Hoster that is willing to deal with #KiwiFarms apologists #DDoS'ing it offline or harrassing staff of said hoster.
I know #Microsoft - like #AllGafamsAreEvil and they are a #PRISM collaborator, but I've yet to see a better option that doesn't cost me €€€€€, cuz my projects have literally ZERO funding.
@rysiek@PiTau The domains I use (i.e. https://os1337.com ) are fully on me and I do bear the costs of those - just like my time - and I could migrate then with a few clicks within minutes...
At worst, I can migrate the stuff, but so far #GitHub's staff have been just nice to me and not given me a reason to yeet...
Now requiring a #Microsoft Account would be a "no-go" and that's the reason I don't have #Minecraft...
@kkarhan@PiTau you make it seem as if all alternatives to GitHub are hosted by "stallmanists".
Nobody is arguing that RMS is not disgraced and should not step aside. But there are forges like SourceHut, Codeberg, and 0xacab, that are not in any way associated with him.
You do you, I don't care where you host your stuff really.
But this veiled ad-hominem ("you surely support RMS therefore you're <all sorts of bad things>") is really meh. Clearly I struck a nerve there about Microsoft GitHub.
There are very finite ways to do a function to perform X in any languague that isn't purposefully obfuscated and unreadable code.
Just like all wheels are necessarily point-symmetrical rotational ellipsoids, certain things will inevitably be the same and not changeable unless one specifically works around the quirks of doing it different for the sake of difference... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX3A7GLtFqM
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