Go to all the Republicans & others who think Forced Birth is such a good idea & tell them you need to raise their taxes by 5% to pay for all the kids in CPS that need help
Then tell them you need another 5% for all the kids they are forcing into the system because of the new laws
Then tell them you need another 10% to pay for all the medical treatment women need because they are forced to carry a nonviable fetus which causes them to be hospitalized
@drahardja I've been beating this drum for a while . "Pro-life" is inaccurate and language made up by those that advocate against bodily autonomy. When the media uses "pro-life" to describe those people, they are capitulating and letting the forced-birth advocates control the conversation. Don't let the forced-birth advocates get away with it.
Any time you see someone describe themselves as "pro-life," correct them. "You mean pro-forced birth." Force them to defend their indefensible position.
@drahardja I’ve been saying this for years. Forced-birth is the most accurate name for their position.
That said, I actually prefer pro-birth.
It’s almost exactly the same point. It fits into the current nomenclature better (this is more likely to be popularized). Also it’s weird in a way that forces you to confront the hypocrisy of their actual position.
@drahardja I like it- but 5 syllables will never catch on/stick. He who shall not be named is excellent at giving brutal nicknames that people are willing to repeat.
@drahardja you get forced to have a child you don’t want, never wanted and can’t provide for. Are bankrupt due to medical bills, risk complications, out on the street and guaranteed neither food or a place to live. Nazis marching in the street threatening LGBT people, and school shooter drills.
Sounds positively dystopian America, get your shit together.
@TruthSandwich I find “anti-choice” sounds too much like…just a disagreement over opinions vs “pro-choice”…and doesn’t capture the violence of what really they are trying to do, i.e. force people to give birth.
“Misogyny” implicitly assumes only women can give birth. But trans men might also have uteri and give birth, so I find it a bit too narrow.
@pixelpusher220 I suspect they would actually agree with you on that, and in states that have made abortion essentially illegal, the state legislature may actually make that a requirement.
@drahardja I like to frame it as bodily autonomy. I feel it explains it much better and it covers more ground as well.
If I as an adult were hooked up to another adult, and I was the only thing keeping that person alive, I 100% know I would be allowed to sever that connection and walk away.
Everyone should have that right, it’s not for anyone else to decide.
@breadbin IMO that position is flawed because it tacitly admits that a fetus is a person, which feeds into the extremists’ argument.
Also, until my (born) child can fend for themselves, I am basically the only thing keeping them alive. Bodily autonomy doesn’t mean I can stop feeding my child whenever I choose.
@breadbin > It also shows that they never cared in the first place. They are fine with terminating anyone after birth.
100%. If these extremists were actually “pro-life” they would fund childhood care programs, preschools, health plans, etc. but they continually gut social programs that help people actually raise children.
@drahardja If they were true pacifists with a can’t harm anything ever mentality I would have a much harder time arguing. But they want to deny health care and other basic human rights as well.
@Npars01
> The ultimate goal for abortion bans is voter suppression & felony disenfranchisement
I never thought of this. What shocks me is that a supposedly democratic country takes away franchise from adults at all. Here in Aotearoa, a conservative government took away prisoners' ability to vote. This was challenged all the way to the Supreme Court, which confirmed that prisoners' right to vote is protected by the Bill of Rights Act.
@drahardja@breadbin One small comment on that 2nd part- consenting to be a parent does require you to feed and nurture it, but you can relinquish that duty to someone else or the state because the child is now autonomous.
Until an entity has a whole body capable of sustaining its life, it doesn't get to enjoy bodily autonomy and associated rights like the carrier should. It makes me so mad when a fetus without a functioning nervous system gets put before a woman.
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