kravietz,
@kravietz@agora.echelon.pl avatar

#Transnistria, a breakaway part of #Moldova, prepares to announce its intention to join #Russia on 28 February. Putin is expected to approve this decision in 29 February, which would be yet another territorial annexation and escalation, this time practically on EU mainland.
If this doesn’t serve a wake up call for Western leaders to significantly increase military support for Ukraine, then I don’t know what will — annexation of East Berlin?

Source: https://deschide.md/ro/stiri/23/145323/Opoz...

fmobus,
@fmobus@mastodon.social avatar

@kravietz yikes, those replies reminds me of the bad parts of bird site.

h4890,

@kravietz

I'm interested in knowing why it took them so long. And also, how come moldova hasn't done anything about it?

If the government of moldova cannot, it shows they do not have enough power to protect themselves, and I would in that case, not be surprised if the transnistria terrorists eventually succeed with a coup.

Another question is what is the least bad choice? Letting them be, or lend a military hand and shoot the transnistria terrorists.

kravietz,
@kravietz@agora.echelon.pl avatar

@h4890

I believe Moldova is too small to afford an escalation with Russia and the only way to take back control over Transnistria is to use military force. And this means armed confrontation with Russia’s “peacekeeping contingent” there, which is small (I think around 2000 people) but still Russian.

Transnistria is a perfect example of a “legal blackhole” that Russia keeps around the world specifically to impose control over other countries. That applies to South Ossetia, Abkhazia, Transnistria and - until recently - Nagorny Karabakh. When you are are “friendly” and compliant with Russia’s demands (even dumbest, like keeping Soviet street names), the black holes are neutral or even cooperating. When you’re not, blackholes immediately start causing problems.

In case of Nagorny Karabakh the blackhole was taken back by Azerbeijan mostly thanks to political support of Turkey, but it only happened after Russia engaged its army in Ukraine.

Of course, if Moldova had the political backing of EU, the problem would have been long solved, especially that Ukrainians already offered to help in the military aspect. Unfortunately, it seems like the EU consensus is that non-escalation is the way to go with Russia 🤷

h4890,

@kravietz

True. It seems the EU is hellbent on repeating the mistake with Hitler.

The ukraine war would be long over if the EU would have united militarily and pushed back right at the beginning.

Valvoline,

@kravietz last time I checked, East Berlin is not home to a majority Russian speaking population, or have things changed? God forbid the Russians wish to be part of Russia. Fear. Hate. Let's go kill some people! Fuck yes!

kravietz,
@kravietz@agora.echelon.pl avatar

@Valvoline

Well, in the first place there’s no such place as East Berlin since 1990 according to the international agreements Russia has signed. The population of Russian-speaking people in Berlin doesn’t matter, legally.

Of course, #Russia doesn’t care about legality and, by pure coincidence, Russian Federation Council has just proposed denouncement of the very agreement that recognised #Germany sovereignty in 1990.

Now add Transnistria. Then add yesterday’s Medvedev repeated declaration that “Odessa is a Russian town, we’ve got enough waiting for Odessa to return to Russia”. How I understand it - they declare opening a new pressure zone for #Ukraine - that is in its very backyard - while threatening EU countries with escalation so that they don’t step up their support for Moldova and Ukraine.

tivasyk,

@Valvoline no territory has the majority of russian-speaking population until it does. crimea had not, — before the grand deportation. donbass region had not before the great famine. transdnistria had not, before having been occupied by soviets then russians. chechnia maybe?

maybe you think königsberg has always been speaking russian?

man, some people's self-assured ignorance and capacity for lies… they won't stop at anything just to continue not noticing the inhuman fascist regime that has been waging wars, murdering native populations, russifying and then occupying and annexing territories… since forever, and continue doing that in the 21st century.

#russia is a fascist state, russians are infected with #fascism. it's not just putin — the entire 140-million-strong population are basically fascists or «merely» apologets of robbing other nations of their languages and territories, this has never stopped (actually intensified!) after the collapse of ussr and has grown into an outright murdering war in #europe

…and still there's always an asshole to persuade us it's ok that «russians» want to be with russia?

are you blind? stupid? a fascism supporter? what are you?

@kravietz

#history #russia #fascism

ottona,
tivasyk,

@Valvoline oh wait, you are not even an honest ignorant asshole — just a freshly registered propagandon account with one post. right. not sus at all :-D

#russian #troll #bot

@kravietz

m0xee,

@kravietz
This might be that grand event to make the "re-election" look more or less legitimate. This means that taking Avdyivka wasn't considered enough even in the Kremlin — so this looks more like a desperate move to me.
> If this doesn’t serve a wake up call for Western leaders to significantly increase military support for Ukraine, then I don’t know what will — annexation of East Berlin?
I don't think I can get any more disappointed in EU, but yeah… 😅

regnumAnarchos,

@kravietz

So.. let me get this straight.. a country using it's right to self determination to choose to become russian justifies supporting faggot led nazi's? This is your logic?

nf3xn,
@nf3xn@mastodon.social avatar

@regnumAnarchos @kravietz Not even Orcs believe their own propaganda. I hope the Rashists are paying you well. Just in case anyone is any doubt: Transnistria is Moldovan and most people there want to be, except maybe in the Nazis garrison. When the Russian fascists are eliminated all these beachheads will be returned to their rightful homes. See most normal people do not want war but no crying afterwards when you bring it.

kravietz,
@kravietz@agora.echelon.pl avatar

@regnumAnarchos

I know, all countries have the “right to self-determination” only as long as they chose to be in Russia.

But when Ukraine decides to join EU, it’s no longer “self-determination” but “fascism”.

So when they’re indecisive, Russia helps their “self-determination” with Russian army 😂

Please, go fuck yourself Russian puppet.

regnumAnarchos,

@kravietz

Gotta love they way the facts are chery picked andor ignored.

kravietz,
@kravietz@agora.echelon.pl avatar

@regnumAnarchos

The essence of Russian “patriotism” in one picture:

  1. “Biolabs”
  2. “Facts”

😂 🤦

regnumAnarchos,

@kravietz

Come on now? Critical thinking cap, put it on.

kravietz,
@kravietz@agora.echelon.pl avatar

@regnumAnarchos

You’re literally a textbook counterexample of “critical thinking”.

regnumAnarchos,

@kravietz

Part of that negotiation was NATO membership as well as military support against Russia who they knew they were betraying.

kravietz,
@kravietz@agora.echelon.pl avatar

@regnumAnarchos

Once again, you’re now arguing with Putin and Peskov. I will repeat these quotes in Russian for your convenience:

Песков: Мы не готовы и не будем воспринимать претензии относительно того, как мы перемещаем Вооруженные силы на территории нашей страны. Это наше суверенное право, и мы не намерены его ни с кем обсуждать.

Путин: “Передвижение наших войск по собственной, хочу подчеркнуть, территории представляется как угроза российского вторжения – в данном случае на Украину. Якобы в опасности себя чувствуют и страны Прибалтики, и другие государства – наши соседи. На каком основании – не очень понятно”

regnumAnarchos,

@kravietz

Do you have a brain tumor or something? You clearly do not understand my words. And are ignoring the bulk of them while attempting to reframe them in an innacurate light.

kravietz,
@kravietz@agora.echelon.pl avatar

@regnumAnarchos

No, I understand what you say very well.

It’s you who is now arguing with the Sacred Words of your Great Leader, Vladimir Putin.

In Russia you can get a prison sentence for that (207.3 УК РФ).

You won’t have Internet access in the penal colony and you will have to learn the meaning of the phrases such as “посадить на бутылку” and “поставить раком”.

regnumAnarchos,

@kravietz

And yes I am well aware that the leadership in Ukrain sold out it's people for western investment in development of the worlds largest neon production infrastructure.

kravietz,
@kravietz@agora.echelon.pl avatar

@regnumAnarchos

Being a sovereign country specifically means you have a right to build whatever production infrastructure you like with any investors you like.

Russia developed joint production of oil, gas and wood with investors from the West and from China. Russia was never asking say Poland or Germany “oh can we build a new oil rig in Siberia with Chinese”, did it?

So why Ukraine should ask Russia for permission for extraction of some fucking neon on its own territory?

regnumAnarchos,

@kravietz

More to the inital entry of you into this hours dead conversation, it was already settled peacefully and you are now stirring up crap because you do not like what was said.

kravietz,
@kravietz@agora.echelon.pl avatar

@regnumAnarchos

No, actually I love what you say. I write down each of your comments into a special notebook titled “Ramblings of Disturbed Putin Lovers”.

I will start reposting these fantastic statements about “biolabs” in ~20 years when you come to EU asking for help and moaning “but we lost 1 million soldiers in the war, we are a victim too!”

kravietz,
@kravietz@agora.echelon.pl avatar

@regnumAnarchos

Well, it’s not me who made these statements with zero corroborating evidence. It was you:

  1. “Ukrain has been used to provoke and threaten Russia over and over again”
  2. “EU wanted Ukrain to join them and kept installing pro EU leadership in a country that just wanted peace and security”
  3. “Ukrain that had a coup’de’ta after a horrific civil war”
  4. “Hunter biden doesn’t hold a majority in one of the dozens of US biolabs in Ukrain?”
  5. “Fauci isn’t funding them and NATO/US haven’t installed nuclear sites along the Ukranian border with Russia?”
  6. “Ukrain sold out it’s people for western investment in development of the worlds largest neon production”

By the way, why you always write “Ukrain”, do you have some problem with your keyboard?

regnumAnarchos,

@kravietz

I apologize you were part of it my mistake. So why wait till hours later to stir shit up again after it settled peacefully?

regnumAnarchos,

@kravietz

If all you are going to do is throw another tantrum nevermind but I would not mind a rational discussion with an adult.

kravietz,
@kravietz@agora.echelon.pl avatar

@regnumAnarchos

Adult discussion is generally defined as based on facts and evidence.

You made a series of unsourced claims, which I’ve collected in one post.

I’ve answered to one - about the “coup in Ukraine” - explaining its actual historic context, which you ignored and continued throwing further unsourced claims.

regnumAnarchos,

@kravietz

Actually my opinions are just that and my research needs not be justified to you just as yours need not be justified to me. A rational conversation amongst adults recognises ones right to their own opinion. That being said my issue is with America continuing to finance wars for other countries and building BioLabs all over the world.

kravietz,
@kravietz@agora.echelon.pl avatar

@regnumAnarchos

You have opinions, I have facts. You say “coup”, I say “agreement signed by Yanukovych”. That’s the difference.

regnumAnarchos,

@kravietz

You are clearly just mad because I do not agree with your position and can not articulate a proper response or rebuttal to my position so you are simply trying to redefine it. Pathetic.

kravietz,
@kravietz@agora.echelon.pl avatar

@regnumAnarchos

Maybe you’re not wording your position clear enough. If you like, you can switch to Russian, I can read and write it fluently.

regnumAnarchos,

@kravietz

Ukrain has been used to provoke and threaten Russia over and over again and Russia is done with the games. Maybe you would support Scottland being used as a staging ground to threaten lower UK and choosing to join a united Ireland then?

kravietz,
@kravietz@agora.echelon.pl avatar

@regnumAnarchos

  1. Scotland is part of United Kingdom, Ukraine is a sovereign country, whose independence and international borders Russia has recognised in numerous agreements.
  2. Ukraine never threatened Russia. Russia threatened Ukraine and Eastern European countries many times, continuously intervening in internal affairs of these countries, including issues such as how to name fucking streets in our towns and what monuments to keep or not
  3. As a sovereign country, Ukraine has the right to do whatever it likes on its territory, within the international law, including entering economic and military alliances to its liking. Putin and Peskov agree with it, see quotes below.

Putin:

Putin: Movement of our own troops on our own, I want to reiterate, our own territory, is being presented as a threat of Russian invasion – in this case, into Ukraine. Allegedly this also threatens the Baltics and other countries who are our neighbours. On what basis – it’s unclear. (8 February 2022, kremlin.ru)

Peskov:

We are not ready, and we will not accept complaints about how we move troops on our own territory. This is our sovereign right, and we are not intending to discuss that with anyone. (February 2022, iz.ru)

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