One of the hard things about the #RedHat thing is that #CentOS's existence as a community rebuild was so often touted by people at Red Hat as a testiment to Red Hat's commitment to #opensource. It wasn't whether or not they could shut it down, but that they knew about it and intentionally didn't. Of course, there were those at Red Hat who disagreed with that back then, but it was very much a pitch point for what Red Hat was about in the #Linux space.
@rst First, please tell me that the "Leap" pun was intentional, cause if so that's brilliant.
Second, the past week, I've been testing out workloads on #SLES and #OpenSUSE and for most things, s/dnf/zypper is likely all you need to know, but there are some significant differences in shipped defaults, such as SELinux.
@jwildeboer With all my due respect to all #RedHat work in past, in time, or in future; Even RH should be criticised when it takes a wrong path. I think it is clear that at least good percentage of the community considers this is a wrong path move and it is being denounced for that. Also, #SLES is now having its own #CentOS with #openSUSE, so I don't see why RH couldn't continue with that.
RH made billions even with CentOS existing, as community we can't understand why this had to be flexed.
@peter I like using #openSUSE on my laptops. I'll admit they're both older laptops, though. If I had to try on a new laptop I'd go for openSUSE Tumbleweed.
The hosts of @DestinationLinux seem like very nice people, but they are 1000% buying what #RedHat is selling.
They do point out RH's communication issues, but they don't admit to the bait-and-switch nature of the company's moves.
They're trying to make the case that #CentOS Stream, #OpenSUSE Leap and #Ubuntu LTS are roughly equal in not being the "bug for bug" source of the paid products.
There's a lot more nuance there, and that should be acknowledged.
After considering both positions, I made up my mind on the Red Hat situation. While they are probably allowed to do what they’re doing right now, I still feel that not only is it unethical, but it also will harm the entire Linux ecosystem when their business drops in response to their last move, first among hobbyists, and then at the companies these work for.
Here are my thoughts, in a more informal video than usual:
@thelinuxEXP It really leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I'm in the process of switching my home PCs and servers over to #opensuse from #fedora as a result of this action. It's a long process though.
Unfortunately, the enterprise servers I deal with are mostly running #RHEL and I really don't see that changing anytime soon. Migrating a production server that is in use to a different OS is a HUGE undertaking. If the change happens at all it will likely be during a hardware upgrade.
I feel like I'm on a 7 Distros in 7 Days challenge. Here's hoping that Debian is my final resting spot. I'm tired of hopping and I just want things to work. After today's disastrous podcast, I just want things to please oh Linux Gods, work the way they are supposed to.
Debian is supposed to be the stable distro. They best not be lying to me.
My only beef with #OpenSUSE is that they refuse to set up PolKit by default, and all of the forum replies on the subject I could find basically said, "lol just use root passwd noob."
That is an idiotic attitude. Other than that, it's a lovely distro.
@thelinuxcast I've always had my share of issues with #apt, and that is the top reason I'm not a #debian user in the past. After a conversation with a group of friends where we were discussing #redhat going closed source, they promised me all past issues with apt are gone and that it is very safe now. I'm giving it a run on a VM for sometime and might use one server for it as a trial, bit I'm also thinking of #opensuse at this point as it a distro I keep visiting between times, and also RPM.
I have used manjaro in the past and for the reasons outlined in all the previous remarks and which I could not recover and fix 3x. I switched to openSUSE and didn't look back. I wondered why I didn't use openSUSE much sooner. it's solid, it's fast, it's reliable, it uses #btrfs filesystem, and has rollback feature as my insurance.
I didn't get that with manjaro. everytime I did update with manjaro after the 1st screwup, and reimaged the second time, I was nervous like walking on egg shells. as a user, I shouldn't have to feel that way. I gave manjaro 3 chances, after the 3rd screw up. I had enough. Manjaro was too complicated for me to troubleshoot, I'm just a novice user. So I went for a robust distro that was simple to use. I switched to openSUSE #Tumbleweed rolling release.
When using openSUSE, I don't feel that way. i feel super relaxed about the routine #openSUSE updates. after 4 yrs running openSUSE Tumbleweed, not 1 single incident issue. that's what I call reliable and stressful #Linux distro. For me its simple because it has #yast, the command and control #GUI#management console. I don't need to know #CLI to admin my OS. I have yast. easy peasy.