Have you even tried #Piefed? Piefed.social is:
"A lemmy/kbin clone written in Python with Flask.
-Clean, simple code that is easy to understand and contribute to. No fancy design patterns or algorithms.
-Easy setup, easy to manage - few dependencies and extra software required.
-AGPL.
-First class moderation tools."
It's actually really quite nice, and I don't hear much noise about it. Go give this project a look at https://piefed.social.
Feeding #Threads trash into #Mastodon is the functional equivalent of when Tom Sawyer got the other kids to whitewash the fence for him for free. Only in this case Tom is Zuckerberg and his cohorts, laughing at the "Fediverse" rubes.
Over 8 months ago now, I started using the Fediverse, messing around with different instances.
I'm glad I've found a pretty good instance of Mastodon.social instead of using Lemmy, Kbin / Mbin or other things like PixelFed.
I'm not saying I'll not use these in the future, but I want a main account for the Fediverse to help bring family and friends in as well as learn the basics & complex parts of the fediverse.
As you've all probably experienced and perhaps read, Kbin went through a rough period in the last weeks. Access to the site was down due extended periods of time and functionality (upvotes, boosts, comments) was compromised....
Mam takie głupie pytanie #fedipomoc. O co chodzi z karabinem i dlaczego każdy inaczej.
karab.in teraz nie działa, ale jak działa to mogę tam wyszukać sienbie i czasem nawet jakieś moje tootki i licznik reputacji sie kreci (cokolwiek to znaczy :>)
kbin.social moge sie wyszukać, tootki są ale repytacja stoi w miejscu czy li sie nie synchronizuje
bin.pol.social nie moge nawet wyszukać siebie (tego tutaj siebie).
I to tylko przykład, ale skoro one są do tego stopnia out of sync to czy jesli ktoś chce śledzić magazyn o nie wiem hodowli pasikoników spożywczych to ... musi śledzić fefnaście magazynow na wszystkich karabinach? Czy to nie powinno toworzyc na poziomie magazynow jakichs globalnych meta spolecnzosci? Czy wszystko żle rozumiem?
I really wish I could like Lemmy, but I'm not comfortable using it given the founders' rather... icky... personal views. Not hating if you can look the other way but I cannot.
It's a shame that #Kbin seems stagnant. Here's to hoping @ernest gets well and gets the backup he needs to excel.
I recently made a major update to my Improved Channel Select Menu userscript, which adds your subscribed magazines and liked collections to the channel select button in the header....
If you haven't heard, sadly, #ChirpSocial, one of the popular #ActivityPub “groups” platform, is shutting down “probably” on February 29th.
In an email they sent to admins, the owner and developer can no longer support https://chirp.social financially as they failed to find a new job after they were laid off by #Google last year.
This reminds us the importance of having a built-in groups feature, and one where the groups feature actually federates.
Back in 2008, when the #Fediverse was born, we did have a built-in federated groups in #Laconica / #StatusNet (today known as #GNUsocial). We used bang (!) instead of at (@). A built-in groups feature is more stable as established instances can host them.
Today, we have #Friendica and #Hubzilla (as well as #Streams-based instances) to fill in that, as groups is a built-in feature in those software products. It's just a matter of finding an instance that's open to hosting groups for any topic for the ActivityPub protocol.
That said, any Friendica, Hubzilla, Streams-based instances you suggest for groups?
Die ursprünglichen #Forum'e im #Internet gelten schon länger als #veraltet und die scheinbare alternative Lösung #Reddit hat nun #KI integriert und schnuppern die #User aus. Die wahre #Alternative finden wir wieder im Fediverse und sind ua #kbin / #Mbin so wie #Lemmy. Ja das #Fediverse ist viel mehr als nur #Mastodon und Co und kommuniziert nicht nur auf einem Server, sondern in der #Community (ihr kennt es evt schon)
Hello #Kbin! I'm signing up on every fediverse site I can find to try all the different interfaces, features, and wacky combinations the open web has to offer. I'll probably be sharing my findings on WriteFreely or Plume after a while. I apologize in advance for any weirdness that may result from my experiments. 😅
Hello again #Fediverse, I may need your #fedihelp. So, here's a list of the Fediverse software I'm about to make temporary accounts for to test all the features and differences:
So, did I miss anything noteworthy? Does anyone have any tips or recommendations before I choose a server for any one of these? I'll probably be going for the most popular server on each for improved federation and maintenance.
Note: I'm using #Sharkey right now and Misskey forks are already overrepresented, so that's why it's not included.
The #Fediverse spam attack is pretty interesting as a single user instance owner. Unless someone I follow on #Mastodon interacts with a spam post, I don't get to see it. Consequently, I don't think I've seen a single one via Mastodon.
I use Mastodon to follow a bunch of #Lemmy and #Kbin communities though, which function when viewed by Mastodon as a user boosting every post to their community. Therefore I'm seeing a lot of posts that way (before blocking and reporting).
If you've ever posted anything on Reddit, your words are going to be sucked up into an "AI" database. The people who profit from this are Reddit and the "AI" company.
What do you get? Screwed, again, by tech companies that have pure contempt for your privacy and rights.
I really want to be done with Reddit like I am with the bird site but the alternative in #KBIN just isn't working --- the other alternative #Lemmy is run by some unsavory characters so I'm not going there....
Has anyone patched either Mastodon or Lemmy so that Lemmy's posts display the whole article in your Mastodon feed yet? At this point it seems like it might be as "simple" as changing the post type from "article" to "note" since Mastodon is now able to display a good amount of formatting and stuff inline #fediverse#ActivityPub
@liaizon as you alluded to in your reply, WP gets around this by assuming type as:Note which I disagree with from a protocol fragmentation standpoint. It implicitly acknowledges Mastodon as the dominant #ActivityPub player with clout to change the behaviour of others, and I stand against it.
#nodebb will send type as:Page (like #lemmy and #kbin), and we will work with @article_interop (and hopefully @pfefferle) to encourage Mastodon to handle it properly by modelling the appropriate behaviour.
#kbin is a mostly great Reddit-Like service that collects the fediverse into one place. That is an issue because there are servers out there which post illegal stuff. My day was ruined by reporting those who post that gross, illegal content! 🤢
I'm probably going to play No Man's Sky for the rest of today to get over the icky and uncomfortable feeling that pervades my mind. Especially since I'm still trying to complete the Living Starship Quest.
Some sage scifi: community lessons in a post-Reddit universe. It’s been eight months since the Reddit blackout. We didn’t know what to expect last June, but we did know that Reddit jumped the shark of Internet relevance. #Reddit#Fediverse#Mastodon#Kbin
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Us sitting here with our fiber internet and recent model phones have it pretty good. But the “i” in iPhone stands for “inequality”. Most people in the world still have pretty bad internet and old/slow phones. For a platform to be widely adopted and to serve the needs of those who often miss out, it needs to be frugal in network and cpu usage.
Lemmy
Kbin
PieFed
Home page
4.5 MB
1.65 MB
700 KB – 930 KB
Viewing a post
360 KB
826 KB (varies)
29 KB
Home pages
Due to Lemmy’s javascript-heavy software architecture, visiting a Lemmy home page involves downloading . And this only gets you 20 posts! Also community thumbnails, even if displayed as a 22px by 22px icon are served directly from their home instances, unresized, which can often be multiple megabytes in size. The home page of lemmy.nz is currently weighing over 9 MB.
Kbin’s home page comes in at a respectable 1.65 MB due to relying less on JavaScript. However it is let down by not using loading=”lazy” on images so they all need to be loaded immediately and by generating post thumbnails that are twice as big as they need to be.
When viewing a post, we can assume various assets (CSS, JS and some images) are cached due to loading the home page first.
The picture looks similar when viewing a post, which is a bit surprising. One of the usual benefits of the JS-heavy SPA architecture used by Lemmy is that once all the ‘app’ is loaded into the browser, subsequent pages only involve a small API call. However, going to a page in Lemmy involves two API calls (one for the page and one for the comments) both of which return quite a bit of data. If you look at the ‘get the comments on this post’ JSON response you can see the developers have fallen into the classic SPA pitfall of “over-fetching“. They’re retrieving a whole haystack from the backend and then using JavaScript to find the needle they want, which involves transferring the haystack over the internet. Ideally the backend would find the needle and just send that to the frontend.
Kbin sends more data than it needs to when viewing a post, again because of not using loading=”lazy” which causes every profile picture of the commenters to be loaded at once. Making this simple fix would bring the weight down, from ~800 KB to around 50 KB.
PieFed only sends 10 KB – 30 KB to show a post, but it varies depending on the number and length of comments. This could be reduced even more by minifying the HTML response but with PieFed under active development I prefer the source to be as readable as possible to aid in debugging.
This is no accident. It is the result of choices made very early on in the development process, well before any code was written. These choices were made based on certain priorities and values which will continue to shape PieFed in the future as it grows. In a world where digital access remains unequal, prioritizing accessible and fast-loading websites isn’t just about technology; it’s a step towards a more inclusive and equitable society.
Meta thread: issues with Kbin and their impact on this community
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OC Improved Channel Select Menu 0.3.0 — Turbo mode support, kbin.earth compatibility, and an Mbin version!
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