kzimmermann, to random
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Ayy looks like #gpg borked in #Devuan unstable (silently, too. No apt warnings). I now can't validate the signatures of the packages anymore which means apt upgrade stopped working. Oops? :devuannew: :blobfoxpat:

kzimmermann, to random
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Decided to play around with again. But this time I beefed it up considerably. Basically built a mini-Debian stable install on top of with debootstrap and started installing some internet-facing utilities on it.

Got to the point where I'm running chrooted firefox, which works pretty transparently, except I get no sound (yet). What could I try next?

kzimmermann, to debian
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Warning: broken - again - in latest unstable [ | ]

Well, let's just say it's a small price to pay for the unclogging of the previous 200+ held back packages. Good thing we have https://snapshot.debian.org/ to "roll back" a little!

kzimmermann,
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Culprit seems to be actually libsnappy instead:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1070217

Downgrade that package to this version and latest runs again:

https://snapshot.debian.org/package/snappy/1.1.10-1/#libsnappy1v5_1.1.10-1

kzimmermann, to random
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Looks like doing one apt full-upgrade to one of my Ceres (unstable) machines safely "unclogged" the 200+ packages that had been held back for 2 months now with no apparent breakage anywhere else.

Guess it can be a useful trick (after analyzing carefully what in fact is being updated) despite my usual advice not to do it:

https://kzimmermann.0x.no/articles/running_debian_sid.html

0xDEADBEEF, to random
@0xDEADBEEF@fosstodon.org avatar

Last I tried screwing around with , and on I had a bunch of fun with scripts from sbo and dependency hell – since neither is an official slack package.

How does this fare in 2024 if I were to try to get a headless host for my stuff (qubes-like but I like pain)?

0xDEADBEEF,
@0xDEADBEEF@fosstodon.org avatar

@ParadeGrotesque
@josemanuel

Thanks! I'm torn between my current and as a minimal headless host I can host (paravirtualized?) VMs on, like a desktop, old Windows and perhaps trying different archs.

jhx, to linux
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If you are new to I suggest you try with 😎 :debian:

Dependable, stable and easy to use 😉

freezr,

@jhx And if you are more on desktop side I warmly recommend to test out + so you don't have the burden of systemd! 👍

peachfiend, to linux
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i have this old , https://everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/specs/imac-core-i5-2.5-21-inch-aluminum-mid-2011-thunderbolt-specs.html
that has been languishing in the basement since whenever it would no longer take OSX updates. haven't had much luck getting onto it. Daedalus, Leap, and all fail in various ways, most seemingly because few distros understand the Radeon display, despite using proprietary drivers. works, but it's... not for me, i think. suggestions? not an fan. i'm thinking for my next try, maybe.

devuan, to music
@devuan@toot.community avatar

Devuan maintainer LeePen discusses with vortex and setto about the do-ocracy of , the USR merge situation and the similarities between , and the .

https://diode.zone/w/wVv3uW6dk4CmY1ir2GAiz6

csepp, to debian

Just when I switch my netbook to #Debian I find out that they too are going to drop 32 bit support. :sadlinux:
Do I take my chances with a community supported Debian port or do I distro hop?

RL_Dane,
@RL_Dane@fosstodon.org avatar

@csepp

That's sad news. What about

There's always ;)

Haydar, to random German
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Regarding the / backdoor, quoting the original mail https://seclists.org/oss-sec/2024/q1/268

"Debian and several other distributions patch openssh to support systemd notification, and libsystemd does depend on lzma."

"it is likely the backdoor can only work on glibc based systems."

So, if you are using a non-sytemd distro ( e.g. , , , ) or a non-glibc distro (e.g. ) you are most likely not affected, right?

coloco, to random Spanish
@coloco@mastodon.social avatar

Testeando en live

coloco,
@coloco@mastodon.social avatar

2
Nada, creo la he cagado intentando instalar ahora no arranca

kzimmermann, to debian
@kzimmermann@fosstodon.org avatar

I wish to install to try it out over plain apt in Unstable, but the package has broken dependencies (libapt-pkg6.0t64 missing) :(

I successfully installed it in , though. It seems slower when doing large updates, but everyone tells me it's the better way to do so instead of apt. Thoughts?

kzimmermann, to debian
@kzimmermann@fosstodon.org avatar

456 packages now in the waiting list because of one unmet dependency in a compatibility package.

Is this what war of attrition feels like?

C'mon :(

kzimmermann, to random
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356 packages are now held back because libelogind-compat has broken dependencies in . I wonder when this is gonna get fixed... :(

kzimmermann, to random
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Broken package in (unstable): libelogind-compat depends on the unavailable dependency libsystemd0.

Guess I'll hold back for a few days while this gets sorted out ;)

kzimmermann, to random
@kzimmermann@fosstodon.org avatar

Looks like deb.devuan.org is down since a while (two days or something now?), luckily we have this great list of mirrors still available to choose from:

https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/mirror_list.txt

We can keep rolling!

atarifrosch, to random
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daedalus after update from chimaera on a Thinkpad R61 (Intel Core2Duo): X is crashing shortly after startx. In between it mostly does not react on mouse clicks. X.org.log tells me:

unw_get_proc_name failed: no unwind info found [-10]

two times after several error messages from libc.so.6 and crocus.dri.so, and eventually Caught signal 6 (Aborted) before it crashes.

Additionally, it tells me „client bug: timer event3 trackpoint: scheduled expiry is in the past (-30ms), your system is too slow“, but I'm not sure whether there is a connection.

The web seems not very helpful. Any ideas?

kzimmermann, to linux
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kernel 6.6.13 arrived in unstable ,,/

dhry, to linux
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Opinions on ?

kzimmermann, to random
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Kernel 6.6.11 dropped into unstable :devuannew: 🤘

kzimmermann, to debian
@kzimmermann@fosstodon.org avatar

Oh, nice, it looks like rxvt-unicode was fixed back in Ceres with the latest fix :D

Looks like I won't have to go back to xterm like I thought!

kzimmermann, to Blog
@kzimmermann@fosstodon.org avatar

Over the turn of the year, I had quite an interesting surprise from Ceres, in which an attempted update to Linux kernel 6.6.9 broke my install. Thanks to the amazing help on the IRC, though, I was able to fix it on the same day. Here's how:

https://kzimmermann.0x.no/articles/updating_kernel_6.6.9_devuan.html

Post 50 in my challenge. FInally, the big 50 mark!!

jhx, to linux
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My stack:

side:

side:

...and a little :windows95:

How does yours look like? 😎

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