liztai, to Korean
@liztai@hachyderm.io avatar

So watched this great Chinese movie called The Captain (my review here) and can't help but think that Mandarin second language learners will have so much fun trying to differentiate the pronounciation of 机长 (captain) and 机场 (airport). The tones are the same, but the pronunciation different - with 机长 it is jīzhǎng and 机场 jīchǎng.

#Mandarin #Languages

https://dramatea88.wordpress.com/2024/02/18/the-captain-movie-review/

yingtai, to random

On this beautiful sunny day, I discovered that if I look up stroke order for the traditional character 肅 in three different places, I get three different results.

Taiwanese Ministry of Education https://www.moedict.tw/%E8%82%85

Hong Kong Ministry of Education https://www.edbchinese.hk/lexlist_en/

The Pleco mobile app seems to represent mainland China. Why does China have official guidelines for traditional characters, you ask? I know not. Singapore certainly doesn't. But China does.

Welcome to Babel.

#Mandarin

liztai, to Korean
@liztai@hachyderm.io avatar

Have learned 100/1000 Chinese characters using mnemonics and memory palace techniques :). Apps I'm using to do this: Tofu Learn to write the characters and Du Chinese as a graded reader.

#Languages #Chinese #Mandarin

davidonformosa, to Taiwan
@davidonformosa@mstdn.social avatar

🐉 There are lots of Mandarin/English puns circulating for the Year of the Dragon playing on the Mandarin word for dragon: 龍 (lóng).

Another form of pun uses lóng 龍 in Mandarin vs lóng 攏 in Taiwanese which means all/everything.

The characters 龍賀 (lóng-hè) mean "congratulations for the dragon year" in Mandarin. In Taiwanese this sounds similar to "everything is good" (lóng hó 攏好)

via Egas Moniz-Bandeira on Bluesky https://bsky.app/profile/egasmb.bsky.social/post/3kl3bt7htis23

liztai, to languagelearning
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So I guess if I understand this podcast I am upper intermediate when it comes to Mandarin? Unfortunately while I understand this podcast quite well, no way can I speak this quickly. It is so weird that my listening skills are soooo much better than my speaking skills 🤣

#Mandarin #Learning #Languages

https://open.spotify.com/episode/2yTrHGtm3tsfhRyxA6dpK2?si=3A6I5MFaSUqt_sz3KnN4FA

liztai, to books
@liztai@hachyderm.io avatar

All the Chinese books I cannot read... Yet.

#Books #Mandarin #Languages #Chinese

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liztai, to languagelearning
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We're blessed to have so many tools to use to learn #Mandarin free. It has made learning the language so much faster and easier. Here are the apps and courses I'm using to improve my Mandarin.

#Languages #Chinese #Learning

http://elizabethtai.com/2024/02/01/the-tools-and-courses-im-using-to-learn-mandarin-free-and-paid/

bill,
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@liztai Thank you for such a great list. Big Pleco+Outlier fan as well. Keep meaning to try their flashcard feature. I’m going to give Tofu Learn a try off the back of your list as I’ve been using Skritter instead.

As my journey started with ChinesePod it's so nice to see it given a mention. I hadn't realised it was still going. They went through a rough patch at one point.

Big challenge for me is translating characters on flashcards into the ability to read anything at all.

liztai, to languagelearning
@liztai@hachyderm.io avatar

Yesterday's favourite Mandarin sentence that I picked up from Draw the Line:

看你数钱的样子
Kàn nǐ shù qián de yàngzi
Look at the way you count money

aka how to insult your soon-to-be ex-husband 😆

#Mandarin #Cdrama #CDramas #Languages

yingtai, to random

It's interesting, what I'm seeing in the current Chinese Primary 1 textbooks. They're using Singaporean terms like 巴士 for "bus", but they're also teaching the formal pronoun 您 that nobody bothered with during my childhood, and so far I haven't caught a single concession to local pronunciation. #Mandarin

yingtai,

My brother was disgusted to hear they're working so hard to teach the polite pronoun, but I think it's nice that the next generation will be able to insult our cousins from the motherland on purpose instead of accidentally. :) #Mandarin

Devonkiwi, to Birds
Gina, to random
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We need to destroy Margot 😤 #duolingo

Gina,
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@ErictheCerise you were right 😤 #duolingo #mandarin

Gina, to random
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#Duolingo: "now that you can say ni hao we can move on to other basics." 💀 #mandarin

Gina, to Taiwan
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pinkpenguin, to chinese

as someone currently trying to learn #mandarin #chinese , i wonder if any #actuallyautistic or #audhd people noticed some particularities when it comes to language learning?

i'm doing an immersion focused approach and sometimes find myself missing the fixed structure that a school class or course provides.
(also it's hard to find good grammar explanations when you're often not even sure about the correct name of the structure you are looking for...)

liztai, to languagelearning
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How I memorize Chinese characters: First, I memorise a component, then if 2 or more components form a word, I create a story of how they came together. For example, for 好 (hao, good), which is made of 女 (nǚ, woman) and 子 (zĭ, child), I imagine a mother-in-law saying that a man with a woman and a child is a good thing 🤭.
I do encounter difficulties with less familiar words/if I can't come up with a good story. May have to use on memory palace techniques for those.

#Language #Mandarin #Languages

liztai, to languagelearning
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#Mandarin learning progress - memorised 50 characters so far. Upgrading my goal to 1000 characters in 2024 from 100. I think it's doable.
Watching one or two #CDrama episodes daily also helping a lot.
About memorisation: Not sure why I found memory palace techniques taught by some language teachers too complex. Perhaps it has to do with the fact that I already understand a lot of words, so adding that extra layer of complexity is confusing. 🤷‍♀️

#Language #LanguageLearning #Chinese

liztai, to Malaysia
@liztai@hachyderm.io avatar

Like, I can't read much now, but I'm SO TEMPTED to order this set of books because I loved so much

But it could be motivational to stare at the books longingly, right??

BTW what's a good place to order books in . Anyone know?

https://www.cite.com.my/product_info.php?products_id=1415431

liztai, to random
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I find it cute that 找 (to look) is basically 我 (I) but with 手 (hand) and 戈 (dagger) separated. So, the hand is looking for the dagger, see?

PS: This is how I remember the characters, with a story!

#Learning #Mandarin #Chinese #Languages #Language

liztai, to Malaysia
@liztai@hachyderm.io avatar

Updated this article with an extra para on the school system & realise how confusing it is. I speak 4 languages only because I had the luck of growing up in certain areas & studying in schools where Malay, English and Chinese are used often. These days, it's not unusual to find graduates who can only speak ONE language. In , this can be limiting, especially if you cannot speak Bahasa Malaysia, the national language.

https://elizabethtai.com/2024/01/02/why-i-am-learning-mandarin-in-2024/

liztai, to linguistics
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#Mandarin #Language learning progress: 30/100 characters learned & memorised so far. HSK 2 vocab nearly 80% done. I may complete HSK 4 vocab in Q1 after all.

May be upping my goal for learning characters to 1000 by end of 2024. My brain seems to like the Tofu Learning app's flashcard system. Things actually stick!

#Learning #Chinese

liztai, (edited ) to languagelearning
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Once upon a time, I took a HSK1 class thinking I could improve my Mandarin that way. It wasn't. After spending half of 2023 researching strategies to improve my Mandarin fluency, I now have a plan in place, detailed in this post below:

#Mandarin #Languages #China #Chinese

https://elizabethtai.com/2024/01/02/why-i-am-learning-mandarin-in-2024/

liztai, to chinese
@liztai@hachyderm.io avatar

I gave myself a very low bar of learning 100 characters this year. I am currently using the free app Tofu Learn to learn my characters and I have learned 20 characters in 20 days. The app has lots of decks that you can download to use, and I am using one where they teach you the radicals, then give you a story why the radicals combined makes said word. This proved to be very effective for me as the story behind the word makes it easier for to remember it.

#Chinese #Languages #Mandarin

Writing Chinese characters on an app

liztai, to chinese
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In 2024, I'm determined to improve my Mandarin vocabulary to a point where I can understand Chinese dramas without subtitles. Here's how I plan to do it.

#Mandarin #Chinese #Languages

http://elizabethtai.com/2024/01/02/why-i-am-learning-mandarin-in-2024/

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