#Firefish hat sich aus #Misskey entwickelt, hat einige neue Ideen rein gebracht und den "asiatischen Touch" für uns leichter verdaulich gemacht.
#Iceshrimp ist ein Fork von Firefish 1.0.3, was wert auf Stabilisierung des Codes legt (also Bugs bereinigt bevor es an neue Features geht), ansonsten sich aber sehr stark nach FF anfühlt.
#Sharkey startete offenbar mit der Prämisse, dass der Code von FF inzwischen kaputt ist, und deshalb wurde so zu sagen zurück gespult: Sie setzen wieder auf Misskey auf und wollen eigene Änderungen so machen, dass sie Änderungen von Misskey einfach re-integrieren können. Das fühlt sich noch sehr nach Misskey an, aber die Dev Version sieht schon deutlich interessanter aus und zeigt, dass sie tatsächlich Community Wünsche umsetzen wollen.
#Catalon ist ein Projekt eines Teils des FF Teams. Laut eigenen Aussagen wollen sie trotzdem an FF weiter mitarbeiten. Catalon ist jedenfalls ein Projekt, dass in naher Zukunft nicht veröffentlicht werden wird.
So ist aktuell mein Wissensstand.
Aktuell sind all diese Projekte noch recht jung, deshalb ist es schwer abzuschätzen, welches davon ausreichend Puste haben wird.
Ich muss mir IceShrimp (und das Team) noch mal genauer ansehen, aber Sharkey geht in eine Richtung, die mir zumindest aktuell am viel versprechendsten aussieht.
Aber.. Firefish 1.0.5.RC läuft bei mir (und vielen anderen) gerade völlig reibungslos. Es gibt für mich also gerade keinen Grund zur Hektik. Ich teste und beobachte vermutlich noch ein bisschen die Alternativen. :)
.. und irgendwie warte ich auch noch auf ein offizielles Statement vom Firefish Team. Bisher kenne ich nur die Sorgen Dritter ..
Premier message posté depuis mon nouveau smartphone (qui me permet d'installer un client fediverse) :duck_disco:
En revanche, j'ai essayé #milktea sans succès, je me suis rabattu sur l'app mastodon classic qui fait le taff (même si bcp d'options manque à l'appel) #firefish#android#mastodon
Cc: @tournesol
#firefish and #misskey seem to have problems with the WordPress Plugin. Could be the signature maybe!?! Is there someone who can help me debug this issue?
What’s the difference between #Mastodon and #Firefish? They both seem to be microblogging platforms in the fediverse. Are they able to talk to each other? I’m a bit ignorant on this atm.
They all have their specificity but they can all communicate (via Activitypub). For example, Misskey and its forks (Firefish and Iceshrimp) can make emoji reaction on posts or even use animations in posts like this. For Mastodon users won’t see them but that doesn’t impact on the communication.
In brief, they are all microblogging services with their own characteristics and UI :akko_thumbup:
It's almost a year since I started actively being on here and my observations so far:
It is actually very opaque to most people how different Fedi software using ActivityPub actually interact with each other
You might think you know what other people on other software see/do but you probably don't! Unless you have an account on other instances using other softwares and actually test things out!
Also, this has massive implications on Fedi safety, if that is something you are actively working on.
(terminology might be wrong: I just did a very quick lookup of it)
@geraineon
lemmy has a search function which leaves much to be desired > moreover, interactions between lemmy instances and microblogging fedi happen to a considerably lesser degree compared to interactions between kbin instances and microblogging fedi > that said, i have not stumbled over unlisted posts mirrored on lemmy so far > but lemmy does display posts to followers, as does mastodon > see e.g. https://hachyderm.io/@rakyat/110716000945480054
this example shows a post from calckey which is visible on lemmy > microbloggers using the *keys should take notice: yes, posts from the *keys are visible via lemmy, although *key users cannot communicate directly with lemmy instances #fediverse#lemmy#kbin#mastodon#misskey#firefish#iceshrimp#sharkey
a post by neon, introduced by "Neon says"; also contains part of a cropped image attached to the post: Date:24.09.23 05:12 Author:Neon Anchovy soup + noodles + turkey meat balls + some vege tonight (If you defrost your meat earlier, this whole thing is done in 30 mins, and I'm honestly a little lazy for anything more elaborate tonight) #MakanApaToday#Food
a boost by @geraineon, introdced by "Neon renotes"; the "renotes" points to the origins of firefish as a misskey fork > at misskey, posts are called notes and boosts are called renotes"; also contains part of a cropped image attached to the post: Date:24.09.23 05:48 Author:Neon Trisha Lynn 🇵🇭 🇺🇸 🇨🇦(@trishalynn) says: The finale of my birthday week presents is viewing a production of a play about the life of José Rizal, a Filipino hero I never studied in high school, despite there being a day dedicated to the Spanish-American war. At least the teacher didn't shy away from media that depicted exactly how racist some of the U.S. politicians were at the time. #PinoyPride
reply of @geraineon, introduced by "Neon replies" - includes not only the acc's reply to another post, but the whole threaded conversation: Date:24.09.23 05:19 Author:Neon @cendawanita wah so many days viral load still so high... how are you feeling today? @mivox Dendan Setia (Nins)(@cendawanita) replies: @mivox the crazy thing is I'm on day 8 and still positive. Wheeee I'm Typhoid Mary 😂 @geraineon mivox :ri:(@mivox) replies: @cendawanita@geraineon Sleepy was my biggest symptom. Took a couple days after I tested negative to Get over it too. Sleep as much as you can! 💜 Thankfully I never lost my sense of smell tho. Gawd that would be so weird, I hope it comes back quickly! Dendan Setia (Nins)(@cendawanita) replies: @geraineon thankfully my taste and smell has never been too closely connected, and I'm tasting all the stuff as normal - still feeling sleepy but mostly ok, tq tq Complete Story
that said, rss and atom feeds on firefish and iceshrimp cannot be used for hashtags as on mastodon because it is not yet possible to follow hashtags on firefish and iceshrimp #fediverse#firefish#iceshrimp
Recently, we spent a lot of time improving the UI and UX for messages. We have to admit that we are not satisfied.
We thought to ask the help of a professional UX/UI designer through a funding dedicated to that project.
Before going further, we need your feedback. Thank you. #Fedilab
#introduction You might know me as @april but in reality this is my new account!
Pronouns it; fae
I'm involved in the Chaos Computer Club, holding talks, helping make events happen.
I am developing #Iceshrimp a *key derivative
Part of the Antifa, enjoyer of Freifunk
Package maintainer for NixOS #neuhier
It's interesting sitting here on an old version of #Calckey seeing someone on #Mastodon server telling their fellow user that posting to unlisted will opt-out of #search when I can see Unlisted posts in my antennas quite easily though I believe this has been rightly rectified in the newest versions of [#Firefish / #Iceshrimp but need to confirm]. Being hidden from the Explore tab on Mastodon is not the same as being unsearchable across the fediverse. Frankly, there's little understanding even among admins across the #fediverse about what's a Mastodon / Mastodon API function that is federated to other Mastodon servers but doesn't translate well outside of Mastodon on other #ActivityPub connected platforms like #Misskey and it's forks, #Hubzilla and #Friendica, or rapidly growing platforms like #Lemmy and #Kbin. Kbin also scrapes posts from across the fediverse and puts them into its own magazines.
Unfortunately simple, up-to-date documentation doesn't really exist to explain the realities of federation vs what your admin said was the reality. AP was not built with privacy in mind, and 'security through obscurity' was mostly a Mastodon thing from when folks thought either the Mastoverse was almost the dark web, or the whole fediverse [which has never been the case], and Google et al weren't interested in scraping it.
Unfortunately we have a cadre of devs across all fedi platforms who'll give glowing lip-service to both the fedi and ActivityPub histories of being built by queer or other minority identities but still won't work on giving folks the granular #privacy and #safety controls that weren't included in those protocols, and whose feature roadmaps now just look like bird site 2.0 funded by the milquetoast liberals in political tech who provide their seed money.
Beyond Mastodon and GoToSocial, every other fediverse project treats posting to public as opting in to search and indexing. Indeed, this is pretty much how the ActivityPub protocol handles such too.
Tbh, I'm on a proactively moderated server that has preemptively kept a lot of the worst folks from being able to reach us queers here, and the feedback from a handful of black users here is that #blahajzone has also been generally been harassment free in comparison to other servers they've been on.
Imo, it's actually not to hard as a queer or trans person to find #servers on the #fediverse that will protect you from harassment, but that it is harder to find servers that will also protect indigenous, black, Asian users from racist harassment. And too many queer white folks get a free pass for ignorance tbh, a privilege that many of us have had for far too long.
It's much the same on #Bluesky where I haven't been harassed for being #queer and trans - again there's large communities and plenty of allies - but anti-black racism has been in the spotlight again recently and the devs called out for lagging behind on safety and moderation features that bigots exploit for harassment campaigns.
Far too many fediverse projects are led by men, mostly white men, who are lionised, promoted and financed by another layer of mostly white men. They ultimately get the veto on minority protections.
@maloki No, they're hoping that those found on Oliphant's Tier0 blocklist are being blocked but can't seem to even locate a list available to view by users on firefish.social much like we have here on blahaj.zone and as do many mastodon servers. Unfortunately Misskey forks like #Firefish and #Iceshrimp don't support the import of blocklists, though Iceshrimp is keen to implement that. I do understand why some servers keep their blocked list private - sometimes public or privately viewable blocklists have enraged the bigots and they then brigaded the server from other servers and encouraged more bigots to join them - but then that should be communicated somewhere newbies can find it.
One of the problems with inadequate search is that I hear echoes of something that happened but getting to the facts is really hard. I don't know that this has the positive effects on community culture that some people suggest. Fact-checking seems important.
hosting his repository in the same server as some alt-right developers (something he immediately amended as soon as he found it out, but you know, historic memory is eternal)
not block alt-right nodes in his main server, and even repost a link to a news post one such server made, without actually going and checking the profile first
#Hajkey uses the well-known DuckDuckGo rather than the unknown search engine shipped with #Firefish. Thank you to @maikel who has made this his first PR to #Iceshrimp.
My #Fediverse viewer now supports any server type (as long as the server's APIs are correctly configured)!
Find out if a server is right for you based on custom emojis, character limit, users, translation, and more.
You can follow the #blahajzone and #Hajkey hashtags from your secondary accounts should performance further degrade here while @supakaity does the backend migrations etc
I'm posting to these hashtags from my @jo#Iceshrimp account.
You can follow the #blahajzone and #Hajkey hashtags from your secondary accounts should performance further degrade here while @supakaity does the backend migrations etc
I'm posting to these hashtags from my @jo#Iceshrimp account.
I think the long term solution is to move to completely rewritten Misskey v13 cos FF & Iceshrimp don't have the folks with the necessary DBA skills needed to unfuck the db issues with their forks. But major kudos to the Iceshrimp team for trying to work things out, helping admins out with performance stuff, etc. FF devs demonstrating they're not following that blahaj zone and others have been having scaling issues while on expensive, fast servers, that they have NFI what is happening in the backend, or they're MIA.
:iceshrimp: Nouvelle MàJ 2023.11 Stable d’#IceShrimp !
Changement avec conséquence
Il n’est plus possible d’ajouter a des listes des comptes que vous ne suivez pas
Retrait de la fonction de «compte proxy»
Dans le but de protéger la vie privée des comptes privé, de lutter contre le harcèlement et d’éviter la confusion des personnes ne connaissant pas le principe de compte proxy.
Nouveautés principales :
Les recherches d’url supportent enfin les redirections
Amélioration significative de la gestion des mentions
Amélioration de l’API Mastodon
Implémentation de l’OAuth pour Mastodon au lieu du MiAuth (Il y aura besoin de se déco/reco de vos clients)
Changement d’UI/UX
Le sélecteur de mention marche enfin correctement
L’icône d’entête de l’onglet «Explorer» utilise maintenant la bonne icône