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jon, to random
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Welcome to today's thread - South East Europe Day 02 31 May 2024 - Tallinn - Lelle - Pärnu - Häädemeeste

Crossing these borders:
None – only crossing Estonia, getting close to Latvia

These borders on the borders map:
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-all-the-borders_935041#8/58.744/24.192

Today's routes on the routes map:
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-all-the-borders_935041#8/58.744/24.192

pony,
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@jon ok but rail baltica never was a thing that made sense to build for what is there now

pony,
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@DiegoBeghin @jon certainly not falling uniformly?

i mean, i suspect the reasoning here may just be that you need an intermediate station before parnu for technical reasons and in that case, you may as well add passenger facilities and maybe you can concentrate more population there from the dying villages

pony,
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@DiegoBeghin @jon no but there is going to be mixed traffic of different speeds (freight, regional, long distance), you also need sidings for maintenance trains and such, not even the french have go more than low tens of km on an lgv without a single switch and you know the french love to have long segments without any

pony,
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@jon @DiegoBeghin between parnu and this one?

pony,
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@ignaloidas @jon @DiegoBeghin ok, that kind of changes the outlook here, i guess, so maybe connecting buses for regional transit?

pony,
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@jon oh but they do have a paczkomat

jon, to random
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They have a handy map of where I’m going tomorrow 🙂

pony,
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@jon Prague dot jpeg.

pony,
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@jon with the combination of very specific time and undefined date on year 2030, this reminds me of the old soviet joke that goes bit like "a man goes to the car store to buy a car, he pays for it and gets told, ok, come back in 5 years to collect your new vehicle; he pauses for a moment and asks, morning or evening? the clerk replies, does it matter? and the man says: yes, the washing machine repairman is also due on that day"

ww3real, to random
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Pekka gets his final grades for all subjects; he got 8s and 9s throughout, and even managed to get a 9 in English, despite what he was afraid of while taking the test.

pony,
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@ww3real on what scale

pony,
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@Alon @ww3real cz schools have increasingly adopted A-F scale, elementaries use 1 to 5, 5 being unacceptable failure

jon, to random
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Welcome to today's thread - #CrossBorderRail South East Europe Day 01 29 May 2024 - Helsinki - Tallinn

Crossing these borders:
Sea border Finland - Estonia and possibly Narva rail border to Russia (not crossing!)

These borders on the borders map:
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-all-the-borders_935041#8/59.738/24.648

Today's routes on the routes map:
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-all-the-borders_935041#8/59.738/24.648

pony,
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@jon what exactly is the orange pants lady doing

pony,
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@jon i have always assumed that the longest train line in estonia has like 25 km, not 200, because how big can a country with fewer people than prague be

pony,
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@Island_Martha @jon how are they going to offer connecting suburban services to paldiski

pony,
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@jon @Island_Martha well, there are surely things that can possibly be done, but what is actually planned? surely they have thought about that

pony,
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@jon @JiMakinen neither, if i understand the sea depth map correctly, the estonian coast is quite steep, you will need the portal more inland, more than the chunnel has

pony,
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@jon @JiMakinen no, but if you compare the two estonian[1] and french[2] coast, it seems you will really need to place the portal more inland, or maybe consider something like doing it at the big island northwest and connect to the city over a bridge? or an artificial island like oresund?

[1] https://ec.europa.eu/maritimeaffairs/atlas/maritime_atlas/#lang=EN;p=w;bkgd=1;theme=2:0.75,7:0.5;c=2735827.321980116,8322804.885417627;z=10
[2] https://ec.europa.eu/maritimeaffairs/atlas/maritime_atlas/#lang=EN;p=w;bkgd=1;theme=2:0.75,7:0.5;c=173786.02227544045,6622126.981294944;z=11

pony,
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@jon @JiMakinen i don't think so? i'd actually suggest both the portals should be out of established urban areas, the travel time reduction will be such that we are not really thinking about 10 minutes here and there and you will want possibly large freight terminals to assemble trains coming into the tunnels, offer car shuttles, etc.

pony,
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@jon @JiMakinen this is trivially true, ulemiste is much better positioned, you could for example consider a portal at whatever looks as a cargo terminal east of it, at the end of the airport (the tunnel doesn't need to be a straight line ofc, you'd slowly and gently curve to wherever you want to dig under the see), while there are no options at balti jaam really

pony,
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@jon @JiMakinen at the balti jaam, i don't see any other option than already digging it 50 meters down like a soviet metro

pony,
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@jon this place may have some advantage, but having useful future doesn't sound like one of them tbh

pony,
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@jon there is just one longer platform, there are also only two tracks in direction of the future ulemiste "hbf", i guess it's a cool terminus for the regional lines extending beyond ulemiste, but like... nah

DiegoBeghin, to random
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Today was the first time I seriously planned traveling by night train, and it became clear that they can't seriously compete against high speed rail or planes.

Prague is about as far away from Brussels as Marseille. The Eurostar to Marseille (when it runs) is 5h, the night train to Prague is... 15h, with a more unreliable schedule. Even giving an 8h sleeping discount to the night train, it's quite a bit longer.

pony,
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@DiegoBeghin there still is the iron curtain on the czech borders when it comes to trains, partly due to geography, but also because of failed policy, literally only double tracked or electrified crossing is to dresden, so like going anywhere to the west on a train is just... nah

pony, to random
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also was wondering, for a moment, how is the entire DPP electric buses thing going

well

pony, to random
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this looks kinda funny tbh

jon, to random
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Welcome to today's thread -
South East Europe Day 00 28 May 2024 - Arrival of night ferry, Turku - Kupittaa - Helsinki

Crossing these borders:
Only sea borders

These borders on the borders map:
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-all-the-borders_935041#7/59.781/21.973

Today's routes on the routes map:
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-all-the-borders_935041#7/59.781/21.973

pony,
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@jon @djasa there's also the newer international fleet with Sm6 for the karelian trains, maybe that also gets a refurb and is going to be reused?

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