stefano, to fediverse
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Good evening, friends of #BSDCafe and the #Fediverse.

Today has been a beautiful sunny day, not too hot, and I decided to take a break and relax, anticipating another busy week ahead.

While performing a #duperemove on a #btrfs file system (and it seems that soon this will be possible on #zfs too!), I'm reading about the progress #hammer2 is making on #OpenBSD (https://github.com/kusumi/openbsd_hammer2). This would be a winning combination, as the versatility of the excellent file system of #DragonflyBSD and the security of #OpenBSD would be an incredibly powerful union. Let's hope the development continues smoothly without any major issues!

jhx,
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@stefano
That would indeed be a great addition to #OpenBSD 😉

jhx, to debian
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I just love #Debian with #Xfce :debian:
It's simple, stable and get's out of my way
It might not be the most eye candy desktop - but I need it to just work.

"It just works" (TM) 😎

datalinkdroid,

@AlexisAlzate @jhx Yep. It just works. I'm in XFCE all day nearly every day. Photo shows OpenBSD XFCE and Audacity, which is what I am currently doing.

#OpenBSD #XFCE #Debian #Audacity

jhx,
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@datalinkdroid @AlexisAlzate
#OpenBSD with #Xfce is great!
Used that before to - the combo :openbsd:

jhx,
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@nichtq
I could run #OpenBSD - and do so (x240 ThinkPad).
For my desktop I have chosen #Debian
It does what it needs to do.
(I do use #Docker and some #Linux only thingies here and there)
In the end: I could run #OpenBSD on the desktop, that would be ok. :openbsd:

suprjami, to infosec
tulpa, to random
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If anyone wants to know what #OpenBSD looks like: In my case, it's just a Firefox window showing Fosstodon, taking up literally the whole screen. There is a one-pixel white border around it. Pretty boring.

RL_Dane,
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@array @tulpa

Yes, they take their man pages very seriously.

#OpenBSD is one OS you could learn a lot about with nothing more than a single offline OpenBSD box. Start with the Afterboot(8) and just go from there.

http://man.openbsd.org/afterboot

Contrast so many Linux projects where the only documentation is some dodgy wiki somewhere. No manpage, no README, no /usr/share/doc/, no nuthin'

(#gomuks, I'm looking at you, amigo)

nixCraft, to FreeBSD
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tcely, (edited )
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Updated: The ports / pkgsrc build framework and the related tools for binary packaging have a complicated history that has traveled further and closer over the years.

The FreeBSD ports was added to significantly after NetBSD forked it, then pkg_* tools were replaced on FreeBSD by PkgNG.

https://www.netbsd.org/docs/software/packages.html#platforms

http://pkgsrc.se/

#NetBSD #pkgsrc
#FreeBSD #OpenBSD
#Linux
#Solaris

#UNIX
#OpenSource

@nixCraft

steely_glint, to ipv6
@steely_glint@chaos.social avatar

If a device has a publicly routable IPv6 interface, safari won't offer that address for a peer to use in a WebRTC call. Unless one of 2 seemingly unrelated things are true
a) the page already has microphone permission or
b) the page specifies an IPv6 capable STUN server.

The whole point of IPv6 is that you don't need NAT to share scarce IPv4 addresses - and so STUN (which figures out what your public IP address is) would be irrelevant for IPv6

steely_glint,
@steely_glint@chaos.social avatar

The ironic downside of using a STUN server is that it adds a round trip time (or possibly 2 if DNS is needed) to the setup time and discloses your IP address to an additional server that didn't otherwise need to know it.

Sigh.

Now on to making my home network IPv6 friendly again - which I lost in the move from #openBSD to #freeBSD

</grump>

jbzfn, to infosec
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jhx, to random
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What are you guys up to on the coming weekend which is #BSD related? 😀

stefano,
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@jhx I'm going to migrate some more CentOS 7 servers to #FreeBSD and #OpenBSD

governa, to Amd
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#OpenBSD Finally Lands Support For Updating #AMD CPU Microcode

https://www.phoronix.com/news/OpenBSD-AMD-CPU-ucode

pitrh, to security
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stefano, to proxmox
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Old customer infrastructure based on 5 and an ancient server running an outdated .
They asked me to update everything because the ERP provider (a small software house) accessing via claims the pfSense version is too old. I agree and decide to upgrade Proxmox.

On the old Dell, I install and, in agreement with the ERP provider, a VPN.

After a few days, they 'recall' me because, for their internal compliance and following their ' manual,' they need to enter the password manually every time they connect, and Wireguard doesn't support user/password concept.

They ask for the possibility to change the PSK with each access to ensure that the one in their configuration files is not the current one - an absurd operation. I don't have a maintenance contract and can't take this responsibility, as it doesn't make sense. Clearly, they agreed on Wireguard without even knowing what it was.
To avoid issues, I ask them what to install instead. They suggest might be acceptable. I proceed accordingly. They contact me again: 'The version of OpenVPN is not suitable, and OpenBSD is not certified according to our security procedures.' I ask them to tell me what is certified. They respond: ' 7, - and the version of OpenVPN from Debian 7.'
I politely point out that Debian 7 reached its End of Life in 2016, and even the extended LTS has been unsupported for 3 years. They don't care, they must abide by their manual - it's safe for them.

The customer asks me to accommodate them anyway, but I reflect on the fact that when they inevitably get compromised, it will be my fault for installing something so outdated today.

I declined the job - limiting myself to updating Proxmox.

I'm not sure if I'm more offended by the bureaucracy of certain 'internal manuals' or by the closed-mindedness of certain colleagues who can't stand up against such dynamics.

jhx, to debian
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Upgrading my little #NUC to #Debian 12 at the moment :debian:
The 12.1 point release just came out, so it is time to update the server as well 🙂

jhx,
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@alelab
Ran my primary DNS for a long time from a #OpenBSD #NUC
And some webhosting related things from another with #FreeBSD

jhx,
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@mikael @vmisev @alelab
The hardware is the culprit most of the time.
Depending on what one has, #FreeBSD can run as smooth as butter. (And so does #OpenBSD )
YMMV 😉

Of course: Any system that gets the job done is fine 😎

jamesrylandmiller, to random

Is anyone using #got / #gameoftrees from #openbsd on their #git repos? Thoughts? I use git now a days but I always had hoped #mercurial would have won, or had their github equivalent.

stefano, to random
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🤖 Introducing the OpenBSD Journal Bot! 📰 @openbsdjournal

This bot, every hour, will monitor the RSS feed of the website https://undeadly.org/ and post the headlines and links to new articles.

Happy reading!

#OpenBSD #journalbot #technews #RSSfeed #BSD #BSDCafe

philbaker1, to FreeBSD
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For #unix history nerds like myself, here is a deep dive in the history of #BSD - a long list of mailing list excerpts, news articles and documentation from 1968 (pre-Unix at Berkeley) to 2003 (#FreeBSD, #NetBSD, #OpenBSD):
https://www.tech-insider.org/unix/bsd.html

tulpa, to debian
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I like #Debian so much. But I sure do want to also use #OpenBSD. If I don't exercise willpower, I'll end up hopping back and forth.

shaul,

@tulpa What is stopping you from using both so you can get experience with #OpenBSD but still have #Debian #Linux to continue woking with that until you are able to to setup OpenBSD to replicate the way you use Debian?

ms, to random
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I wrote an article about moving my site to on @OpenBSDAms using , , and client and (a bit) about my new found love towards @mwl:

https://michal.sapka.me/2023/moved-to-openbsd/

tulpa, to debian
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#Debian is for the reasonable adult in me. #OpenBSD is for the radical in me that has actual taste in software and doesn't care that I can't meet every tiny need.

_xhr_, to random
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