I just entered several #Guppe groups (e.g. @mathematics @physics
) but the groups just keep silent from my point of the view.
I wonder if it is just because nobody posts for the past 12 hours or some other technical issues (or I just misunderstand the mechanism of it)?
„Das Twitterlehrerzimmer war einmal noch wie dieses coole Stadtviertel, von dem keiner so genau weiß, was genau es eigentlich ausmacht. Aber wo jeder weiß: Da findet man alles und jeden.“
If you haven't heard, sadly, #ChirpSocial, one of the popular #ActivityPub “groups” platform, is shutting down “probably” on February 29th.
In an email they sent to admins, the owner and developer can no longer support https://chirp.social financially as they failed to find a new job after they were laid off by #Google last year.
This reminds us the importance of having a built-in groups feature, and one where the groups feature actually federates.
Back in 2008, when the #Fediverse was born, we did have a built-in federated groups in #Laconica / #StatusNet (today known as #GNUsocial). We used bang (!) instead of at (@). A built-in groups feature is more stable as established instances can host them.
Today, we have #Friendica and #Hubzilla (as well as #Streams-based instances) to fill in that, as groups is a built-in feature in those software products. It's just a matter of finding an instance that's open to hosting groups for any topic for the ActivityPub protocol.
That said, any Friendica, Hubzilla, Streams-based instances you suggest for groups?
@retrobeetism I have a similar experience. #Guppe groups (at least after it went offline for almost a month(?)) rarely works all other #Fediverse platforms (those I've tried). But #Chirp groups, #Friendica forums, #Kbin magazine, and #Lemmy communities, there are rarely any problems.
My brain tells me that the issue is with Guppe platform, since all other similar software works fine. They did something to break interoperability with the rest of the Fediverse, and created its own bubble with Mastodon.
#Guppe for us has been a problem for a long time. Users on our Firefish server just can't follow them. #Chirp too has issues. Especially inbound. The responses are malformed. Right now I have 11 in our Inbound queue which will eventually fail and disappear, so the subscribe user will never see the message.
From what others more knowledgeable that me have said, the implementation of ActivityPub for these services is poorly constructed and have been cobbled together for Mastodon servers
And the lord looked upon the creation of the group @red_state_insurgents
and it was good.
And the lord said "hey all you brave leftist souls living in red states ... Go forth and insurge!
But seriously ...
If this describes you, and you'd like a group where you can plot, scheme, commiserate, support, and maybe have fun meeting some people who share this particular geographic affliction; then come join the fun!
See you there 😎
Oh yeah ... please boost for reach 🙏
@Susan60 Hi, I apologize. I've decided to indefinitely shut down the autobooster since I realized that this is a really ugly workaround (there's just no way as far as the software I used goes to even determine whether it's a reply or posted by a user that has #nobot in their bio) for #GoToSocial's lack of support for relays as well as #guppe and #chirpsocial not federating well with GTS (I can't follow groups from there).
Hey #fediverse, does anyone know if a.gup.pe and chirp.social has some sort of #API which lists all groups in it? I've just thought of an idea to make this #GoToSocial instance I manage federate even more instances than just 600+ servers, which is to #massfollow them all with a #followbot. Yeah it's a really bad thing to use against normal instances (it's gonna annoy humans behind the accounts), but it shouldn't be a problem if I just follow group accounts, right? :sagume_think:
I'm gonna also try mass following every community in #Lemmy and #kbin as well.
#Fediverse question:
Is it just me that has issues following #guppe groups or #lemmy communities on #iceshrimp or #mastodon? Or is this just a problem with ActivityPub microblog platforms?
"'The threadiverse', aka #fediverse group servers like #guppe, #lemmy and #kbin are all based on the premise that each community is hosted on one instance, but users and posts can come from all over. So it's like any normal #phpBB-style forum, except you use your own user instead of having to register and check everywhere.
Makes sense to me, and I'm not saying that they should do it any other way, but this is exactly how mailing lists work."
Mit den vielen neuen #Gruppen im #Fediverse geht euch vielleicht ein wenig die Übersicht verloren. Zum Glück gibt es in #Friendica eine Möglichkeit direkt nach Gruppen zu suchen und diesen zu folgen. Damit entfällt die #Suche auf externen Seiten.
Die Suche wird statt eines "@" mit einen "!" eingeleitet. In der Treffervorschau werden euch alle Gruppen angezeigt, die zu diesen Namen gefunden wurden. Die Trefferliste liefert euch gleich noch die korrekte Adressierung zum Abonnieren einer Gruppe.