keirFox,
@keirFox@furry.engineer avatar

Furries: "UGH we're such horrible people we ruin everything there was a fire at FWA and obviously furries set it and that means we're just as bad as Rainfurrest and no one will ever want us again!"

1 - the fire was a grease fire that burned through the kitchen wall of the Sear hotel restaurant.

2 - that everyone references "the one bad convention" that happened nearly TEN YEARS AGO when there is a furry convention happening pretty much EVERY WEEKEND somewhere in the world means we have a pretty damn good track record.

tilton,
@tilton@raccoon.zone avatar

@keirFox One of the things I've noticed about the Seattle fandom is that the Rainfurrest thing has made everyone incredibly resigned. Any time I bring up the topic of maybe starting a new furry convention in the area that isn't ANW's squeaky clean "We're not those gross furries, we're Anthropomorphic Arts Enthusiasts!" image, the reaction has almost universally been "Nah, there's no point, nobody would ever have us ever again..."

It was almost a decade ago. There have been literally HUNDREDS of successful furry conventions around the globe to point at since then. It's so defeatist, it makes me sad.

keirFox,
@keirFox@furry.engineer avatar

@tilton Speaking of which... what is up with ANW? Founders an offshoot of Burned Furs or something?

lupomancer,
@lupomancer@furries.club avatar

@keirFox @tilton I think it’s for-profit run by a church that benefits from it? Super PG, no parties and definitely no sex or fun allowed

lupomancer,
@lupomancer@furries.club avatar

@tilton @keirFox It also bugs me that it’s left such a huge vacuum in the PNW.

Nobody else will start a con here, and it feels like the cons that are run here don’t strive for much anymore.

We have VancouFur which has terminal bad venues and lack of drive to be anything more than a hallway con despite getting bigger every year, and we have a con that’s run by Christians. It’s like everyone is trying so hard to not be RF that it’s getting in the way of actual good stuff happening.

Everyone just goes to FC and other cons now and it’s absolutely draining the life out of larger PNW cons

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