gruber, (edited )
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Thoughts on Apple no longer including stickers with new devices to reduce waste:

https://daringfireball.net/linked/2024/05/09/no-more-stickers-with-new-ipads

marcintosh,
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@gruber I like them and I use them, but I know I’m an outlier. I know most of them end up in the waste stream and in the quantities Apple makes, that’s a big deal so I’m okay with them being reduced or eliminated.

strongcoffee,
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@gruber Mixed emotions with this one. It might have some environmental impact when done with the iPhone. I just hope they never build up the courage to take stickers from new Mac owners. Maybe my collection will be worth something now? https://mastodon.social/@strongcoffee/112361489505797691

mgomes,
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@gruber They were used as a sign of rebellion. People stuck them on bumpers, books, cases, etc. Apple is the navy now. I almost never see them anymore.

javbw,
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@gruber I have a collection of stickers, from 1970s to recent ones, but nowadays a huge CE brand doesn’t really garner the type of fans that would put Apple logos on their car, as I once did. Some will miss them, but I bet 99% get left in the box until it’s thrown out years later.

It would be like how we’d feel if Brother included stickers with laser printers now - that’s probably how the vast majority of customers see Apple (only the 5% pre-iPhone would feel differently).

gruber,
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@javbw Do you think if Brother opened a chain of retail stores they’d be as crowded as Apple Stores?

javbw,
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@gruber so very true - but when I was a Genius back in 2006-7, there seemed to be more Apple fans in there - the ones who would use the stickers.

Even with several hundred million more stickers given out, I still see about as many Apple stickers in the wild as I used to from the G3 days.

The stores are great (& service centers too), but percentage-wise now seem to serve a tiny sliver of the Apple installed base (who’d miss stickers).

I think most Apple customers (now) have not visited one.

njpozner,
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@gruber I loved them when I was younger, and having one signaled backing an upstart, “different” company. Apple may still be different than most companies, but they are not an upstart anymore.

pvanb,
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@gruber 🤷‍♂️

garretble,
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@gruber

I don’t think I’ve ever stuck one of the stickers on anything in 20 years — though I do still have them all. So probably a stack of twenty stickers or so.

_holger,
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@gruber the stickers are good to put them over the HP logo of the work-laptop to show the colleagues that you usually use macOS.
(There are seriously people in my company doing that)

palombo,
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@gruber They put a smile on my face, but I never ever used one in the last 25 years - and I bought A LOT of Apple products. I am OK if they give them out to those that want them.

oddevan,
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@gruber I get it, but I also remember my first PowerBook and how it came with the power adapter, extension cable, a DVI-VGA adapter, and an S-video-RCA adapter. Or the first MacBooks that came with a USB dialup modem. And how the whole USB-C transition happened with nary a complementary adapter in sight. In that light… it feels stingy.

seiz,
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@gruber borderline greenwashing PR move…

_holger,
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@gruber I haven’t used any of the stickers since 2004. so I really don’t care. But it’s good if there is less waste produced.

jdechko,
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@gruber I’ve got to believe finding an eco friendly sticker would fare better and be better received than the fine woven case.

jscari,
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@gruber on the one hand it feels like a tiny bit of whimsy being removed, but on the other hand I don’t think I’ve actually used those stickers in 20+ years. They’re a holdover from when Apple was the underdog, but they don’t need free advertising anymore. And with the number of devices Apple sells, it probably does add up to a lot of material being saved. Overall I think it’s a good move.

covercash,
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@gruber I wouldn’t mind if they gave them away (or even sold them for ~$1) in stores. Have black, white, maybe some limited edition colors that correspond to whatever the current season color palette is… even a retro rainbow Apple would be cool.

chockenberry,
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@gruber Keeping these babies out of the landfill.

outadoc,
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@gruber This is like the easiest thing to get rid of if you're gonna try to reach your environmental goals. Why not do it?

markv,
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@gruber Is this part of their bigger trend towards "no more plastic packaging, only paper based"?

NeueWelle,
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@gruber I've been in the Apple ecosystem for almost 20 years at this point and have always found those stickers weird. Like what I am even supposed to do with them? The devices already have Apple logos, am I that much of a fan that I need even more logos?

Perhaps they're a holdover from when Apple was the plucky underdog and that's why I don't get it 🤷‍♂️

andrewthompson,
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@gruber I feel bad every time I throw them out. This is a good change.

SlowButEffective,
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@gruber Was the poll question whether I agreed with Apple doing this?

conlan,
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@gruber Make it a checkbox.

bigzaphod,
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@gruber I bet they aren't lowering the price by 25 cents to compensate, are they? 😛

Fairaday,
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@bigzaphod @gruber I can’t remember the last time I used any of those. Just more swag for the landfill, IMO.

bigzaphod,
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@Fairaday @gruber I honestly haven't used them in years, either. I don't really care too much if they go away. What pisses me off is companies removing things and scaling things down, citing the environment, but then not lowering the prices to compensate. (Not that there'd be much lowering in this situation, but you know what I mean.)

craiggrannell,
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@bigzaphod @Fairaday @gruber That’s what I’ve been saying. I couldn’t give two hoots about the stickers. But hiding behind the environment is getting old. It’s presumably seen as a good excuse to stamp out arguments though, even when people then point to the bottom line.

delric,
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@craiggrannell @bigzaphod @Fairaday @gruber it isn’t “hiding” if most people toss them into landfill. I don’t think I’ve ever used one of those stickers out of dozens of devices.

craiggrannell,
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@delric @bigzaphod @Fairaday @gruber Do most people do that? And if we go down the landfill route, what of Apple making tiny changes to the form factor of devices every year that mothballs old accessories. What happens to them?

That’s not to say there’s no environmental benefit to scrapping the stickers. But it does feel a bit hmm as reasoning, in all honesty. It’s a reason at most.

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