SUSE, who now has a CEO that comes from Red Hat, joins forces with Oracle and QIC to produce yet another supposed Red Hat clone instead of promoting their own product. I can only chuckle at this announcement. Get the real deal. Get RHEL. https://www.suse.com/news/OpenELA-for-a-Collaborative-and-Open-Future/
@jwildeboer Redhat has all to loose in this disastrous decision (Redhat one, not CIQ-Oracle-Suse) about closing the sources. Even if the community understand it is an IBM decision
@jwildeboer I love SUSE and I’m genuinely worried about their current strategy. By joining this “RHEL-clone fever” they’re weakening the position of SLES as a competitor. I’d be surprised if this pays off for them in the long-term.
@jwildeboer I read this announcement earlier and initially thought it could be an interesting development until I saw it was just another RHEL clone. You can't produce something better than RHEL by copying RHEL. You can only get whatever Red Hat gives you. This is marketing bollocks.
I still think Red Hat has an opportunity to lead the Next Big Thing. If only there was an Enterprise OS with a functional and empowered Community 🤦♂️ We're so close.
Collaboration: Collaboration is a fundamental aspect of the foundation. All members and users will work together, share knowledge, and collaborate on shared infrastructure and resources. Everyone is welcome to take an active role, participate and contribute."
Last sentence though: "Contributions and involvement in the community may determine one’s influence and responsibilities."
@jwildeboer Everytime I hear 'Oracle' and 'open' in a sentence without a negation in it I start laughing.
As for an 'open' enterprise Linux alternative beside Red Hat, I'm all for it. Like a lists of specs that a Linux distro must meet in order for it to be called an 'enterprise' Linux.
@jwildeboer and that's exactly what I meant... (I forgot the sarcasm tags.)
Any Linux distro can be called an 'enterprise Linux' if an enterprise uses it. Just naming it 'enterprise Linux' doesn't make it that. "The proof is in the pudding", as they say...
And RHEL is used in many enterprises, so it's earned the title.
When Oracle planned their clone of RHEL back in the days, I had a discussion with the Red Hat CEO on how to react. (I got the tip 3 months before Oracle went public with the announcement). I said to my CEO that the only real argument is simple. If you want to do commercial Linux, Red Hat Enterprise Linux is the only valid basis. To see SUSE and Oracle supporting that now, many years later is chefs kiss level of awesome :)
@jwildeboer I understand the desire to get something for free, of course, but if I have the choice of "we try to cobble together all the bits of RHEL we can find and we think we got it all" and "just use CentOS Stream", I'd use Stream.
@jwildeboer@major it's honestly incredible what you can achieve without spending a penny. Only thing I'd change is the lifespan of CentOS Stream. Let it tick over in maintenance for the full 10Y.
There's already almost no reason to use a clone over CS, but that's the one reason one might still. Personally I think you should ideally be using RHEL at that point but lots won't.
@jwildeboer Personally, I think it's kinda bad that #RedHat was kinda becoming the de-facto monopolist.
Tho it's not as if @SUSE and @ubuntu could've made better offerings before, and I still think that unless one has a harsh #Vendor#LockIn#Ubuntu and @opensuse are the better options.
I just wished #SUSE and espechally #Canonical were more commited of building good distros than weird shite like this...
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