@spinningthoughts 100% - what the key takeaways / summary are to me wil lbe different to a bot. Will it also capture the nuances / read between the lines comments of a meeting or simply factual.
Feels like there are other aspects of Tana that could have been worked on with AI, rather than forming the core of the app, being something additional
@spinningthoughts I also feel that they now might find themselves in a type scenario where other aspects of the app will fall to the wayside as they will need to put all efforts into ensure that AI runs as it should (given this is basically what users are paying for) while other basic things are not fixed.
@ednico Not doing local-first early is biting Tana in the arse quite a bit. Notion managed it (eventually) but they‘re kicking a good bit of technology debt down the road there.
@spinningthoughts I could not agree more. That and export - I feel like if Tana really wanted to appeal / get the attention of the masses it was to implement Offline or proper encryption and be different from the rest
After listening to @amolith on the @linuxlads I am giving #Logseq a decent go again: I'll try it for 2 weeks and see where I end up. I wrote in my Bullet Journal once this month, so I can't be worse than that. I am using my #Obsidian folder already set up with #Syncthing between devices, and it seems fine with that.
Obsidian lasted... not long, but I think I was trying to be too rigid with it. So I'll try not to be so much this time.
Dear #logseq and #obsodian users, #git is not a backup system. Store your notes in a reposotory, if you must, but please configure a backup for your notes.
i really like #flatnotes, but it's a little bit too minimalistic ... thinking about switching to another #note taking solution ... but there are so many options. #obsidian , #logseq , #joplin ?
main requirements are that its needs to be quick and easy to use; syncing the notes between desktop and android phone (not through external cloud, needs to be #selfhosted) ... preferrably 100% #foss - so i guess obsidian is already out?
This year I wanna get into doing diligent note-taking: #Obsidian vs #Logseq, which is the better option? Or something else entirely? My only real requirements are having a Linux app and an Android one being a nice-to-have.
I try now #Logseq and this is #OpenSource and I would like to like it but somewhere I can't manage to understand and use it. I don't just want to write down my thoughts and #ideas, I also want to be able to check off a #todo list… 😐
@fexplorer Es gibt noch ein Forum unter https://discuss.logseq.com/ und einen Discord-Channel. Neben dem obigen deutschsprachigen Matrix-Raum gibt es noch einige englischsprachige.
They're working on a DB version in parallel that will provide better scalability, performance and realtime #collaboration (#RTC). They'll charge for RTC.
Unfortunately, this seems to be the end for #orgdown markup as they are implementing #Markdown only now and a conversion feature later on. 😞
Therefore, logseq is not an option for me any more and I'll need to think about a migration strategy for my wife.
@publicvoit@skizye thanks for the article. If for example you want to make a note on using lsp server in emacs, which then relates to emacs, lsp, python and clojure (for example), where do you put it? Or how do you label it?
@weiming looks good! I am fluent in regex and SQL and I know some Clojure, but these datalog queries are still a bit of mystery to me… that’s the thing I need to visualise!
I did a lot of tinkering around recently to get an advanced query working for me which ended up being quite tricky to work through. I have Project pages (eg [[12335]] ) and on journal pages I have job note blocks for specific jobs ie #12335 Notes with a :job property so the block title can change if needed. There are multiple levels of notes / subnotes / tasks here and I was attempting to do the below query before I learned or-join, but the query was fragile & failing if tasks weren’t at a specific indent level. I ended up spending a Sunday afternoon deep diving into this stuff to figure this out.
As I understand it, the datomic data model is just a HUUGE list of ‘datoms’ which are super basic [element-id|attribute|value] rows for everything.
There is some concept of ‘unifying’ which is a variable that appears twice in a :where represents the same value across all clauses.
Something like (or-join) allows you to control this unification to selected sub items.
My visualization on the query is a graph of conditions
The :find (?task) element is absolutely required
There are ‘facts’ you want to satisfy [(get ?prop :job) ?job][(contains? #{“TODO” “WAITING” “DOING”} ?marker)].
?task → ?prop (through or-join) → ?prop must contain :job with value :current-page
. ↳ ?marker -> must be one of TODO / WAITING / DOING
📓 #LiebesTagebuch Heute nachts eine revidierte Form von #TiddlyWiki aufgesetzt. Bin momentan zufrieden mit meinem neuen Notizbuch. Kostenlos gesichert auf #Nextcloud. Hat zudem eine saubere Oberfläche. Vielleicht anfangs in der Handhabung ein wenig ungewohnt. Sonst begeisternd und auch im Fediverse vertreten: @TiddlyWiki
Nach #Logseq (abstrus nicht linear) und #Joplin (fade linear, fast tägliche Updates) ein machbares und praktisches Format? Nun, wir werden sehen.
@tinderness Nun, das eine beeinflusst IMHO das andere.
Und wie gesagt: dein Argument war nicht auf Tool-Eigenheiten bezogen sondern auf die Art und Weise, wie du mit Links umgehst und das ist da wie dort gleich. Insofern konnte ich deiner Argumentation nicht folgen.
Größere zeitlichen Lücken zwischen der Benutzung von #Freecad lassen bei mir ja wiederkehrende Fragen (Wie war das nochmal?) entstehen. Auch Infos zu Freecad notiere ich jetzt konsequent in #LogSeq
Dann weiß ich zwar beim nächsten Mal die Antwort vermutlich wieder nicht, weiß aber wenigstens, wo ich sie ohne große Suche nachlesen kann. Mach ich ansonsten schon lange. Warum für Freecad nicht? 🤦♂️
@jakob Bin, wei gesagt, Laie. Ich müsste keine Software benutzen. Mir hilft aber ein 3D-Entwurf sehr dabei, eine Idee auch vernünftig umzusetzen, Dafür nehme ich ein Bischen Mühe gern in Kauf.
Hey #PKM people, as it seems fashionable here to humblebrag by posting screenshots of graphs: What exactly are the benefits of a graph view? Aren't bi-directional links just simpler and thus more effective?
@ledaj@gisiger I have yet to use the graph in org-roam-ui for anything beyond entertainment and a general birds eye view of clusters of related things. I share because it might encourage someone to try emacs org-mode. I do think that it could be a fun and useful way for someone else to access my notes.
@nickanderson@ledaj@gisiger In my opinion, org-roam-ui is currently the only practical graph that has various filters. It allows you to visually see the structure and connections of your knowledge, understand the boundaries of your knowledge, and identify areas that require further exploration. Additionally, https://github.com/ikoamu/publish-org-roam-ui this project also enables you to view graphs online and even use it as a blog because it supports LaTeX preview. #emacs#orgmode