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screwtape

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Writing (lisp..)

Nascent ghost of the still-living scientist https://www.ida.liu.se/~erisa03/

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#lispygopher #climate + Zhen House Zhen Bonkwave episodes!
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screwtape, to gamedev
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Post nobody wants #itch #gamedev #meta analysis from latest / popular devlog posts.
https://lispy-gopher-show.itch.io/logos-lisp-legend/devlog/733862/post-nobody-wants-itchio-meta-at-my-glance
tl;dr #springlispgamejam2024 people are already doing well by breaking out of the sameyness with #lisp power tools and cultural memory. On the other hand, it must be hard to break into the crowds of The Exact Same People Doing The Exact Same Thing With The Exact Same Engine Demo Examples. Maybe just don't worry about it. I kinda regret writing this.

screwtape,
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@amoroso I think you're right. I was projecting criticisms that certain things were not specifically appealling to me onto a lot of people, which I do regret.

On the other hand, I think historically informed lisp like yours and our friends have worlds to offer the itch people so I can atone

Everyone there desperately wants to make games the best and most powerful way they know how. Lisp has been working on specific-purpose-complete-programming-systems for 70 years.
Such as the CLIM CAD env eg

screwtape,
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@amoroso oh this is the Naughty Dog thing. I think I've been too dismissive towards this in the past too ;p I knew you'd know something

That's quite the interesting article (they got bought by Sony hoping to scoop their tech! Wait, what are all these ((((((s )

lispegistus, to Lisp
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I've got some light relaxing reading lined up for my Saturday :) #lisp

screwtape,
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@lispegistus do you existingly know @amszmidt ?

screwtape,
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@lispegistus @amszmidt
A more interesting description is being our resident scholar on the MIT lisp machines

screwtape, to chinese
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1400UTC Friday
https://anonradio.net:8443/anonradio @SDF

A lifestyle show set in with English and and

<3 @socool @keefmarshall @ordosmarkzero @blog @n3wjack @FastGhost @SrRochardBunson +
https://bonkwave.org/board/index.php

Tonight/morning we are listening to the new (last Sat/Fri)
https://bonkwave.org/music/not-bonk-what-i-call-wave-remixes/

Hang out live in-MOO at @me's Sushi place, and https://sdf.org commode chat. lambda.moo.mud.org

UNK today!

hajovonta, to emacs
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I'm trying to create an user interface where the user should be able to edit a list, including the adding, removing and ordering of items.

Unfortunately, with the ordering requirement, I'm a bit stuck - how is it usually solved in Emacs?

#emacs

screwtape,
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@hajovonta What is the list? There are a whole bunch of specialised things right. Apropos sort?

(sort '(2 3 1) '<) C-j
(1 2 3)

zyd, to Lisp
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Big time Lisper on the fediverse spotted 👀 @8arrow

screwtape,
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@zyd @crmsnbleyd
I guess @8arrow and @cxxxr coincide on the web #lem ( @louis did you have a link to a talk on this)

I was going to ask cxxxr about web lem as a sort of outgroup to emacs after talking to @kickingvegas about writing emacs porcelains. The show has been accurately described as a wandering community brainstorm though, we don't really chew through topics quickly ;p

screwtape, to Haiku
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#lispyGopherClimate https://archives.anonradio.net/202405150000_screwtape.mp3 #archived 0UTC Wednesdays
https://climatejustice.social/@kentpitman/112435869881550169 #haiku by @kentpitman
https://climatejustice.social/@kentpitman/112435915953911155
I guess we talk about that Guardian article
#unix_surrealism #art https://analognowhere.com/
@fstateaudio @setto #notWhatICallProtoAcidBonk #music <3
#lisp #gopher things are coming together
@rat
"
ratxue says, "screwtape pulling the moo sandewall emacs mcclim velid worlds together"
"
#springlispgamejam2024 ! https://itch.io/jam/spring-lisp-game-jam-2024
#1425 in #lambdaMOO!

screwtape,
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@kentpitman @fstateaudio @setto @rat
I forgot I was going to mention @RussSharek @SocialGaff new episode of two clowns in a closet, featuring #unix_surrealism banner art! It's fun because their self-description is the exact opposite ( #'complement ?) of the lispy gopher climate.
Will talk briefly about doing a bandpass with fftw using code I found on my gopher, but I didn't re-execute it in time for this liveisode

screwtape,
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@kentpitman @fstateaudio @setto @rat @RussSharek @SocialGaff

in which I leak @nosrednayduj's review of @keefmarshall

screwtape,
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@keefmarshall @nosrednayduj

@etherdiver you haven't reviewed https://music.key13.uk/?

svetlyak40wt, to random
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Do you have ideas, how we could make Lisp more popular and used in widely in commercial companies?

screwtape,
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@amoroso
Hmm. Great article. It has about three gists.

  1. The CLX McCLIM CLIM II backend (maintained by @jackdaniel) is an incredible and ideal asset
  2. It basically says that @jackdaniel's ECL's sffi's ffi:c-progn is of extreme and fundamental importance since C kinda won microcomputing
  3. It says lisp needs to resolve @amszmidt toot above: https://mastodon.social/@amszmidt/112443467752935129 and gives as a direction MIT's historical AI repository (I lost my link, who has it handy?) sumo tarball approach.

@svetlyak40wt

screwtape, to random
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One of my uni student computer friends has gotten too powerful to really ever need help or commentary with their bog standard Micro$oft classwork.

What advice should I give to make their computer life harder?

screwtape,
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@CryogenicIce9 hah, well the one I was wriggling my eyebrows at was that they need to shuck visual studio and move to emacs on windows as a first taste of software freedom.

KydiaMusic, to random
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I really want to enter a song into #Fedivision but I’m afraid it won’t fit and no one will like it. Plus it’s nowhere near finished :sadness:

screwtape,
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@mxtthxw @KydiaMusic
I was gonna say, it sounds like you fit in ;p

screwtape, to Lisp
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I added a get/put example of persistent knowledgebase changes in #Pawn75 #KnowledgeRepresentation #lisp

https://codeberg.org/tfw/pawn-75

(see the README.org)

Basically

-- pineapple

[: type fruit]
[: has-color brown]
[: plant-type bush]
[: produced-in {thailand nicaragua}]
[: latest-rearchived nil]

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

screwtape,
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@indigoparadox yeah, hang on, I'll find something to quote at you in a moment on the topic of prolog and this.

screwtape,
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@indigoparadox okay, remember I'm working with drafts of books written between Sandewall's retirement in 2010 and last visible activity in 2014. In AICA-SYSTEMS-1 at the start there's:

"3.2.4 The Prolog Language
An account of Prolog as a representation language is to be added here. Notice the relation to ICL in Section 6.4.

3.2.5 The Common Expression Language
Discuss how it relates to the previous ones. Many points in common with KIF [Knowledge Interchange Format -st], but more legible.." so

screwtape,
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@indigoparadox but there is finished writing about prolog basically as one of the antecedents to Sandewall's work. Sandewall's basic goal was to use his experience to reconcile all the very-disparate strains of knowledge-based intelligent agent research.

screwtape,
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@indigoparadox 7/1 ICL is

6.4 Interagent Communication Language and OAA
..used by the Open Agent Architecture http://ai.sri.com/software/OAA
..ICL.. incorporates important aspects of Prolog.

This is the language by which software individuals in a leocommunity talk to each other.

screwtape,
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@simon_brooke
yeah, there's a sport to trying to find the things people got rid of after Sandewall went dark.
@indigoparadox

screwtape,
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@simon_brooke
it's gonna get really cool once we go through Sandewall's microzoo lab. (To be clear, this is basically a self-playing casual game of a zookeeper taking care of a toy zoo. It's not slang for microzoology.).
@indigoparadox

screwtape, to climate
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#lispyGopher #climate coming up! https://anonradio.net:8443/anonradio
#haiku by @kentpitman https://climatejustice.social/@kentpitman/112401577767211950
Ageism, @mattof's novel phost
#lisp :
kmp's desktop environment idea from the 90s, and light shed on what FOO105 would have been 40 years ago with ams.
@louis , hayley, amber's responses about #veilid
A large thread about #commonlisp #asdf with @theruran on the mastodon.
#KnowledgeRepresentation https://codeberg.org/tfw/pawn-75
#Music @limebar's #faircamp !
#unix_surrealism @prahou
#lambdaMOO sushi

screwtape,
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Ran out of room.2/1
It's at 1400UTC every wednesday. Join us in sdf.org Commode chat or lambda.moo.mud.org MOO!
I feel like there were more topics I've forgotten. Add them here in the next 45 minutes or join the damgud cyberchat.

Edit: I'll get on top of the European lisp symposium stuff next week (just read louis)

@kentpitman @mattof @louis @theruran @limebar @prahou

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