BeAware, to reddit

I have deleted all my posts/comments on ahead of deleting my entire account tomorrow. If you are leaving as well, don't just leave your comments and posts in limbo! That allows reddit to profit off your content through ads.

takishan,

@BeAware deleting your comments means they are still there unchanged - it will just say "deleted" as the username

what people need to do is edit their comments and override them with something

jimsalter, to random
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TIL that Stack Exchange mods are having very similar problems with their platform's management to the ones we Reddit mods are having with ours.

https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/425100/moderation-strike-update-data-dumps-choosing-representatives-gpt-data-and-wh

feoh,

@jimsalter Good on them. I'd pay actual dollars for a StackOverflow platform that didn't victimize its mods.

"Free" considered harmful. Part 9000.

Kotking, (edited ) to reddit
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For visibility will repost this post https://mastodon.social/@Pitchfork@lemmy.world/110619672228141339
Title "The Coup of /r/AssholeDesign"

mialikescoffee, to reddit German

The guys from the Open Source Security Podcast are right about the fiasco of Twitter and Reddit shutting down their APIs:

"The people who are using these APIs are not the kind of people you want to push out of your ecosystem - they are the people that literally built the ecosystem."

#reddit #redditblackout

https://opensourcesecurity.io/2023/06/25/episode-381-wtf-reddit-apis-and-risk/

mvario, to random
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simon_lucy, to reddit
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Can copyright be used to protect private sub-Reddits?

IANAL
#copyright #redditblackout #reddit

janl,
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@simon_lucy unlikely. Reddits tos will have a unlimited copyright transfer clause.

simon_lucy,
@simon_lucy@mastodon.social avatar

@janl

That was my initial thought.

RedditBlackdown, to reddit

What do most TikTok users and Reddit users have in common? They still have understand anything about how to check Reddit, TikTok (and other socials) properly, even without need to see a single ad. But obviously they react like if the end of Apollo is equivalent to the end of the world.

To such people, learn the basics of proper social network usage. Once that is done, you can comment.

video/mp4

socialjeffwarrior,

@RedditBlackdownan you are unhinged for some reason. Either that or you’re a Reddit plant.

MattD, to reddit
davorb, to reddit

#reddit tells the mods that if they want to stay closed, the users will have to vote on it. Users vote to stay closed and then Reddit says they have to open up anyway.

Link: https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/22/23770480/reddit-blackout-protest-pressure-mods-change-rules #redditblackout

mialikescoffee, to reddit

So this is new or I have never seen it before. The message comes up when I open a link to #Reddit in my browser.
What is this? The content could be inappropriate but it isn’t inappropriate anymore if you open it in the official Reddit app? This doesn’t make sense at all except that they want to force people into their app.

#redditBlackout

mvario, to random
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mochi,
mochi avatar

@mvario what rules? I thought Reddit subs set their own rules in terms of topic and content?

mvario,
@mvario@mastodon.social avatar

@mochi Double-secret probation rules I guess.

dredmorbius, to reddit

First they came for /r/pics ... now Reddit are coming for the individual personal subreddits

Quite some years ago I'd realised that amongst the problems with using Reddit as a personal blogging space (my avatar here is a relic of that, if you'd not put the two together) was that I do not in fact have any permanent claim to that space.

Reddit's previous policies of moderator re-assignment bothered me. The policies apparently instituted September 2022 and being rolled out aggressively in recent days ... have not weakened my concerns.

And, checking in now, I find a day-old modmail to /r/dredmorbius, a subreddit which only ever was my own personal posts with comments from a few friends, and about 1,000 subscribers ... has received a notice to reclaim by /u/Modcodeofconduct, screenshot attached here.

I have not abandoned the sub. I had closed it in protest of Reddit's continued failings and war against its volunteer moderators and general community.

And I will not go quietly.

dredmorbius,

As my toot notes, I'd been very aware that Reddit could reclaim the subreddit according to its rules then in place. The pinned posts on the sub, for 2 and 3 years respectively as of this past February, discussed that amongst other concerns. The Wayback Machine shows those here:

https://web.archive.org/web/20220224161047/https://old.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/

One of those posts specifically addressed my preferences for how my subreddit should allowed to die and rest in ... ouch, typo, "piece". That post received an admin response saying that it would be a good candidate for just that.

https://web.archive.org/web/20230612102634/https://old.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/dt527o/no_this_subreddit_is_not_fully_dead_yet_but/

dredmorbius,

The Reddit story goes deeper, and drags in Ycombinator and its popular news aggregator Hacker News

My submission earlier today about Reddit seeking to seize my personal subreddit of going on ten years drew 405 votes and 299 comments, but ranked 42nd on the archive page https://news.ycombinator.com/front?day=2023-06-22&p=2, well below posts with far fewer votes and/or comments.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36434885

I've inquired as to whether that was due to flags or HN moderator actions (automated or manual).

But ...

... HN's chief moderator dang had commented earlier today that Reddit content is now penalised, and has been since "a while ago": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36435312

I note that this conflicts with, and contradicts, a comment from a week ago reiterating HN's policy of moderating less not more on stories concerning YC companies, specifically noting that this was despite the somewhat distant-in-time and tenuous present relationship between YC and Reddit.

And that comment appears to be the first HN's mod team bothered mention the fact, as an HN site search reveals:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36366909

The fact is that Reddit are an Internet juggernaut, that they are going explicitly against prior commitments, promises, and policies (both sitewide and in my case specifically communicated to me three years ago by a Reddit admin ggAlex: https://web.archive.org/web/20230612102634/https://old.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/dt527o/no_this_subreddit_is_not_fully_dead_yet_but/f6vj489/

This war-against-its-power-users has made international headlines.

HN plays a de facto role of customer-support-of-last-resort, which dang has specifically acknowledged:

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=by%3Adang%20customer-support-of-last-resort&sort=byPopularity&type=comment

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34320816

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34941474.

And yes, that can be repetitive and annoying and repetitively annoying ... but ... it is often one of the only viable venues for those who are disempowered to be heard.

Or, in /u/toxlab's case, the dead: https://web.archive.org/web/20230612102634/https://old.reddit.com/r/TalesFromRetail/comments/5a2xj3/everett_redditor_utoxlab_of_rtalesbytoxlab_passed/

HN's present Reddit policy both amplifies an existing power discrepancy (that of Reddit members against the company) and puts HN's own credibility at risk.

HN cannot simultaneously claim to:

  • moderate YC companies less,
  • impose a penalty for submissions concerning a specific YC company, and ]- fail to disclose the existence of that penalty at all.

I'm well aware of the jump in Reddit-related traffic, and have commented at length on it (per my wont): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36435319

The fact that HN have now put their thumb on the scale without notifying either submitters or the general readership concerns me greatly.

How about HN:

  • De-thumbs that scale
  • Clearly and prominently disclose the fact of the penalty, and the dates at which it was applied and lifted.
  • Applies a case-by-case assessment based on new significant information.
  • Provides a mechanism for aggregating similar classes of stories. E.g., the tens to hundreds of thousands of small and/or personal subreddits which Reddit are now acting to seize control of.

Hacker News's own credibility is very much at risk here and that itself is a serious concern to the site.

(Communicated to HN's mod team via email, toot here adapted slightly.)

#Reddit #HackerNew #HN #RedditStrike #RedditBlackout #ycombinator

reiver, to RedditMigration
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rmdes, to reddit
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There are still 30% of the 8k #reddit subs that pledged to go dark ongoing #RedditBlackout

This might be the base that won’t move no matter what reddit does.

And apparently, Reddit is willing to die for lies and “becoming an adult”

naynay, to reddit

Oh. Reach out admin about "what next steps will take place" if I don't reopen.
The lights aren't on anymore. I've left.
I was the creator & sole mod of most of my communities. We aren't "stewards in a position of trust with our users." We made a house & invited users in if they liked the way it was run.

I still mod a few reddit comms close to my heart in the hopes I can find a decentralized self-hosting option to redirect them to. I want my own damn house.

scarpentier,

@naynay I feel more like it's their house and that we decorated, furnished and lived in them for the last 15 years... a really bad idea in hindsight.

Do know know about Lemmy? (the self-hosted, fediverse-enabled alternative to reddit) https://join-lemmy.org/

naynay,

@scarpentier Right, lol. True. Altho I was always supportive of before now. Starting with my appreciation of Aaron Swartz; their content policy allowed for NSFW; RES and Toolbox extensions were fantastic; a plethora of 3P apps...

I spent $$ on Reddit supporting it - gold & badges, etc. in the same way I've spent $$ on Tumblr supporting it.

For-profit companies aren't evil until they start pulling this greedy shit sacrificing users for $$ and (fuck) u/spez goes off praising

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