First they came for /r/pics ... now Reddit are coming for the individual personal subreddits
Quite some years ago I'd realised that amongst the problems with using Reddit as a personal blogging space (my avatar here is a relic of that, if you'd not put the two together) was that I do not in fact have any permanent claim to that space.
Reddit's previous policies of moderator re-assignment bothered me. The policies apparently instituted September 2022 and being rolled out aggressively in recent days ... have not weakened my concerns.
And, checking in now, I find a day-old modmail to /r/dredmorbius, a subreddit which only ever was my own personal posts with comments from a few friends, and about 1,000 subscribers ... has received a notice to reclaim by /u/Modcodeofconduct, screenshot attached here.
I have not abandoned the sub. I had closed it in protest of Reddit's continued failings and war against its volunteer moderators and general community.
As my toot notes, I'd been very aware that Reddit could reclaim the subreddit according to its rules then in place. The pinned posts on the sub, for 2 and 3 years respectively as of this past February, discussed that amongst other concerns. The Wayback Machine shows those here:
One of those posts specifically addressed my preferences for how my subreddit should allowed to die and rest in ... ouch, typo, "piece". That post received an admin response saying that it would be a good candidate for just that.
The Reddit story goes deeper, and drags in Ycombinator and its popular news aggregator Hacker News
My submission earlier today about Reddit seeking to seize my personal subreddit of going on ten years drew 405 votes and 299 comments, but ranked 42nd on the archive page https://news.ycombinator.com/front?day=2023-06-22&p=2, well below posts with far fewer votes and/or comments.
I note that this conflicts with, and contradicts, a comment from a week ago reiterating HN's policy of moderating less not more on stories concerning YC companies, specifically noting that this was despite the somewhat distant-in-time and tenuous present relationship between YC and Reddit.
And that comment appears to be the first HN's mod team bothered mention the fact, as an HN site search reveals:
And yes, that can be repetitive and annoying and repetitively annoying ... but ... it is often one of the only viable venues for those who are disempowered to be heard.
HN's present Reddit policy both amplifies an existing power discrepancy (that of Reddit members against the company) and puts HN's own credibility at risk.
HN cannot simultaneously claim to:
moderate YC companies less,
impose a penalty for submissions concerning a specific YC company, and ]- fail to disclose the existence of that penalty at all.
The fact that HN have now put their thumb on the scale without notifying either submitters or the general readership concerns me greatly.
How about HN:
De-thumbs that scale
Clearly and prominently disclose the fact of the penalty, and the dates at which it was applied and lifted.
Applies a case-by-case assessment based on new significant information.
Provides a mechanism for aggregating similar classes of stories. E.g., the tens to hundreds of thousands of small and/or personal subreddits which Reddit are now acting to seize control of.
Hacker News's own credibility is very much at risk here and that itself is a serious concern to the site.
(Communicated to HN's mod team via email, toot here adapted slightly.)
You know #reddit#redditblackout#redditMigration#redditapi#RedditStrike this Spez guy is not so bad. Why not make a bot same as gandalfbot from r/lotrmemes. It's not like he will be ashamed of his words? His quotes like "The blackouts are not representative of the greater Reddit community" and "My favorite analogy for Reddit is that of a city" "Hi Snoos" "We have not seen any significant revenue impact so far and we will continue to monitor." Apollo threatened us, said they’ll “make it easy"
Hey, any other Reddit mods on here participating in the Reddit Strike? Us fellow Rubyists have noticed a pattern of 5-10 messages per-day from users asking to join the sub-reddit, but they're predominately new users with 1 karma and were created in 2020... I've seen this on /r/ruby and another mod confirms it on /r/rubyonrails (which is much smaller). Could be lurkers trying to join, but could also be bot accounts trying to infiltrate the sub-reddits. Given the recent comments from the Reddit CEO about allow users to vote out striking moderators, this pattern seems ominous. Anyone else noticing any unusual patterns or upticks? #reddit#redditblackout#redditstrike
I’m a long-time #Reddit user with the karma to prove it. I love the site, but have been absent now for several days. PLEASE, stay off of Reddit for at least the next few days, we’ve got a point to make - that our community is mightier than the greedy corporation. The CEO says it will “…all blow over soon…” Let’s prove him wrong. It’s hard, but we need to stay off the site until management gets the point. It’s ok to explore profit-making moves, but it’s not ok to attack the community and valued third party app devs. #redditblackout#redditapi#redditstrike#redditapiprotest
Once again Louis Rossman knocks it out of the park with his summary of the #Reddit situation. In short, u/Spez thinks "You are noise". Nothing but noise, of no value. Lets keep up the strike and show him he's so so terribly wrong.
Google is getting a lot worse because of the Reddit blackouts
With Google’s generally poor search results nowadays, appending “reddit” has long been the default way I search for almost anything (and no, I’m not ready to get my info from an AI chatbot, either). But given the sheer volume of subreddits that are currently unavailable — including some of the most-subscribed subreddits — clicking through many Reddit links in search results takes me to a message saying the subreddit is private. ...
This is a STRIKE. The #RedditStrike must continue until they cannot simply handwave it away with a "this will pass". Reddit wants to go public, for that they need content and they need DAU. Do not give them content, do not give them DAU (Daily Active Users - do not use the site at all!).
🪧 Major Reddit communities will go dark to protest threat to third-party apps
➥ The Verge
"Some of Reddit’s biggest communities including r/videos, r/reactiongifs, r/earthporn, and r/lifeprotips are planning to set themselves to private on June 12th over new pricing for third-party app developers to access the site’s APIs."