josephholsten, to linux
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People frequently say they don’t want #ZFS on their workstation because it’s a server FS. But what’s the best workstation FS? #UFS, #Ext4, #HAMMER, #Btrfs, #XFS? What’s the going benchmark workload look like? What subjective aspects matter too? (And yes, I know about damned lies of https://fsbench.filesystems.org/)

#linux #bsd #illumos #unix

nahumshalman, to random
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dfr, to FreeBSD

Just finished reading the latest journal (https://freebsdfoundation.org/past-issues/freebsd-30th-anniversary-special-edition/) with various people (including me) writing about important events over the history of the project. Congratulations everyone for the last three decades of progress.

dfr,

@slink @bsdphk Some things, e.g. pfSense, TrueNAS, are very close to FreeBSD, others have diverged over the years. It really depends how much effort is spent to track FreeBSD.

With derived kernels, there isn't a near common ancestor but there is sharing - for instance picked up our NFS file locking implementation and benefitted greatly from .

ptribble, to random
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Just for fun, Tux Paint and putty running under Xfce on a Tribblix SPARC system.

jperkin, to random
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Those of you who use my #pkgsrc trunk repositories for #illumos #macos #netbsd etc may notice a change during your next "pkgin upgrade".

pkg_install will no longer print script messages for packages that are being refreshed or upgraded.

This avoids confusion where the deinstall script may tell you it is ok to remove certain files, despite them still being required after upgrade.

The output should be a lot cleaner, errors more visible, and no more confusing messages or duplicated output.

ptribble, to random
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kwf, to random
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What if we had all stuck with CDE and not had this whole "25 different desktop managers from Tuesday" deal?

ptribble,
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@kwf But life would be so depressing if we just had CDE, don't you think?

On Tribblix, I have 28 desktop variants to choose from - including CDE and a bunch of traditional ones.

#tribblix #illumos #x11

cks, to random
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This is my expression when local (and exclusive) flock() locks on a Linux NFS server don't conflict with POSIX locks obtained over NFS through lockd/NLM/etc. Because these NFS locks may be from flock() on clients.

Augh. This is robot logic and it means 'don't run anything on your NFS servers'.

JdeBP,
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JdeBP,
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@josephholsten

Interesting. Another one. At this rate I'm going to have to factor out a list so that I don't keep laboriously repeating the names.

It's worth your having a HISTORY section on your manual page. Speaking from experience of reading HISTORY sections, 20 years from now, people will quietly thank you.

I've tried to do that myself. e.g. http://jdebp.info/Softwares/djbwares/guide/commands/easter.xml#History

#NFS #setlock #flock #lockf #Illumos #FreeBSD #Linux #s6
@ska @synlogic @cks

JdeBP,
@JdeBP@tty0.social avatar

@josephholsten

The interoperability problems are significant. H. Peter Anvin's flock(1) uses flock(2), whereas you are using fcntl(2).

Ironically, this means that #Linux is your worst nightmare, because #Illumos and the BSDs guarantee that those two will (locally) interlock, whereas Linux doesn't and the world has thus got two #flock tools on Linux that don't interlock.

That's going to be a #Unix StackExchange answer somewhen.

#NFS #setlock #fcntl #lockf #FreeBSD #s6
@ska @synlogic @cks

JdeBP,
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ptribble, to random
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Ooh. New OmniOS LTS release.

https://omnios.org/rn/r46

Methinks I had better get my skates on and get a new Tribblix release out the door. Can't be seen to be falling behind!

#illumos #omnios #tribblix

Toasterson, to random
@Toasterson@chaos.social avatar

Reading this Essay today makes me want a couple more featues in #illumos SMF. MacOSX is really a different beast of an OS with interesting capabilities all blocked because it is proprietary. #freebsd might had some looks into OSX too?

https://blog.darknedgy.net/technology/2020/05/02/0/index.html

JdeBP,
@JdeBP@tty0.social avatar

@Toasterson

You want SMF to have more features? Which ones, if so?

Or you want some more of the features that are in SMF to be added to some other system? Which ones, and why?

#Illumos #nosh #SMF

alanc, to random
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#GCC 13 will be the last release branch to support #OracleSolaris 11.3. GCC 14 and beyond will require 11.4 on Solaris. Really though, no one should need new gcc releases this far past the end of the normal support life for 11.3, which ended in 2018.

https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc/2022-December/240322.html

(I don't know what minimum will be needed for gcc 14 on the #illumos side, especially as illumos doesn't do versions or releases, but leaves that up to the individual distros to handle.)

JdeBP, to linux
@JdeBP@tty0.social avatar

@swagpussc The basic thing to understand is that this is not a world of Windows.

There have always been other operating systems, and in particular there has been, since the late 1960s, a large class of operating systems that are: Unix; one of the many flavours of Unix that #Unix split into in the 1970s; or someone creating an operating system that's very much like Unix, from the ground up, a decade or 2 later.

#Linux is (the kernel of) the last sort of operating system.

(continued...)

JdeBP,
@JdeBP@tty0.social avatar

@swagpussc (...continued)
Often forgotten by people is the period in between. The people who cloned Linux and the (GNU) "shell" around it often worked from samizdat doco about 1970s Unix.

In the 1980s and early 1990s, there were a whole bunch of commercial #Unix flavours: #Xenix, HP/UX, #AIX, #SunOS, #Ultrix, OSF/1, AT&T System 3, AT&T System 5, ...

#Illumos, which came from #Solaris, which came from SunOS, is actually still around.

https://illumos.org

#SVR3 #SVR5
(continued...)

selea, to random

I wrote a quick post a couple of weeks ago about setting up a #tor relay on Tribblix

https://blogs.linux.pizza/run-a-tor-relay-on-tribblix-an-illumos-retro-distribution

Tribblix is a Illumos based Operating System - it is Unix but not Linux or BSD - but rather based on OpenSolaris.

Check it out!

#illumos #solaris #tribblix #unix

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