arnelson, to bluesky

The is great from the Fediverse side, but the side is still missing a lot. Posts longer than the limit just get truncated; wouldn't a Read More link be better? And self-replies don't seem to get bridged at all, so threads don't work.

WetHat, to fediverse
@WetHat@fosstodon.org avatar

to bridge silently launches

became quietly available for people to test, but as bridged posts started to appear, other people became aware and more people started to test and use the bridge.

To make your fediverse account available in Bluesky, you’ll have to follow this account: @bsky.brid.gy@bsky.brid.gy

Directory of bridged fediverse accounts:

https://blue.mackuba.eu/directory/fedi

ben, to Blog
@ben@mastodon.bentasker.co.uk avatar

New : Disabling backfeeds

Reading a post by @robb recently set me rethinking my use of and Webmentions.

In this post, I talk a little about why I've decided to turn off backfeeds and disable the display of webmentions on my site

https://www.bentasker.co.uk/posts/blog/privacy/disabling-webmention-backfeeds-on-www-bentasker-co-uk.html

Rusty, to mastodon
@Rusty@cubhub.social avatar

The same thing that drove me nuts about the BridgyFed/BlueSky bridge discourse also drives me nuts with the Threads discourse. :neofox_what:​ Why isn't there a fediblock level that lets admins default to suspending a server, but allows users to opt back into federating with them? Is there a technical reason for it?

I really don't think it should've been on the BridgyFed developer to build an opt-in system that rightfully should've already been in Mastodon, the same way I don't think blocking Threads outright is the best solution (granted it's better than openly federating, hence why they're suspended here). Why doesn't Mastodon have a built-in system for letting users opt-in to federating with a server? :confused_dog:​

#Mastodon #MastoMeta #MastodonMeta #Fediverse #FediMeta #Threads #BlueSky #Bridgy #BridgyFed

downey, to random
@downey@floss.social avatar

Dear

Can someone explain to me how isn't simple copyright infringement?

🤔

For example, see this case that determined the implied license of an RSS feed for personal use, doesn't necessarily include permission for another site to republish the material: https://www.mondaq.com/unitedstates/copyright/1047416/implied-copyright-licenses-in-the-digital-world-blogs-rss-feeds-and-aggregators

Crell, to bluesky
@Crell@phpc.social avatar

Worthwhile thoughts on and the consent debate: https://wedistribute.org/2024/02/tear-down-walls-not-bridges/

kev, to mastodon
@kev@fosstodon.org avatar

This #Bridgy nonsense is exactly the reason why #Mastodon is doomed to fail unless something changes. The whole “not in my back yard” bullshit is starting to get really old.

jwildeboer, to random
@jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net avatar

When your code violates the social norms of a community, you could learn that code comes after people. Or you could insist that just because you CAN you don’t need to care about that part at all and just use technical blah to justify your actions. Simple.

benpate, to random
@benpate@mastodon.social avatar

If anyone had paid attention in psychohistory class, Hari Seldom would have told you that the current uproar was unavoidable. SOMEONE was bound to make a bridge to BlueSky as soon as they opened up.

And, SOMEONE was bound to complain about it from a position of fear and ignorance.

I just want to say that @snarfed.org@snarfed.org has done tons good work for the Fediverse, and I appreciate his latest project.

Ryan, you’re awesome. Ignore the haters.

mima, to github

I mean I just told people in that thread to stop with the threats of suing/litigating against the developer and the / project and I got instantly dunked on. The initiator of the issue got dramatic, despite them not really giving out legal threats to the dev (like why did you feel hurt by that generalistic statement? ​:SanaeConfuzzled:​) I guess it's easy for the to just not care how such a litigious attitude can be damaging. I mean, who would want to work in such an environment knowing that people around you want you jailed? ​:reimu_sigh:​

We're fucking lucky that the developer gave us a heads up, an approximate timeframe (where the launch is at least a month away), and was mature in their responses. And even more lucky that despite all those legal threats and mudslinging the dev still continued engaging respectfully with the criticisms and offered an opt-in method that people I knew were vocal against the bridge's opt-out, accepted. Seriously, @snarfed.org@fed.brid.gy deserves some credit for keeping up a cool head and rest from all of that mess.

Yet most of those vocal detractors couldn't just resist acting like immature people throwing out and comparing the dev to rapists in an effort to scare them out of fedi. One of the authors/founders even had to show up in the thread to clarify how those detractors got their understanding of how the fediverse works wrong. ​:ablobcateyeroll:​

RE: https://desu.social/users/pixel/statuses/111928612924814849

AccurstDemon, to bluesky

In light of current events with snarfed.org and brid.gy fiasco, you can use this tutorial to block by yourself both of them even if there is no reachable account on some of these domains:

How to Block Server Domains in Mastodon

https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https://medium.com/@geofbard/how-to-block-server-domains-in-mastodon-899b24f8fb6e

Edit: Credit to the author:
@theghostoftomjoad

aral, to fediverse
@aral@mastodon.ar.al avatar

snarfed.org and brid.gy for bridging fediverse folks to Bluesky against their will (and in likely contravention of GDPR in the EU) with typical Silicon Valley techbro sense of entitlement:

“[O]pt in results in far fewer users, and users are critical for a bridge to be useful.”¹

Relevant GitHub issue: https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy-fed/issues/835

¹ https://snarfed.org/2023-11-27_re-introducing-bridgy-fed

HT @homegrown

aral,
@aral@mastodon.ar.al avatar

PS. I just suspended (domain blocked) both snarfed.org and brid.gy from my personal fediverse instance and saw that there was already one account from one and eleven accounts on the other so my account was apparently already being bridged without my consent.

Those links are now severed and they never should have existed without my knowledge or approval to begin with.

#bridgy #snarfed #fediverse #mastodon #bluesky #bridging #optOut #optIn #consent #gdpr #eu #SiliconValley #techbros

phf, to random
@phf@social.sdf.org avatar

I am not enough to figure out how to block those silly domains. I mean I blocked snarfed.org but what about the others? I need to find an account on one of them first before I can select "block entire domain"? ?

ryanrandall, to random
@ryanrandall@hcommons.social avatar

Impressive to see the person behind somehow deciding that "opt-out" could somehow be a good approach to anything involving the Fediverse (https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy-fed/issues/835)…

…and thereby eroding any interest I had in using bridgy for on my site.

First rule is always: do no harm. Evading consent is doing harm, no matter how many pixels you want to devote to "network effects."

pfefferle, (edited ) to random German
@pfefferle@notiz.blog avatar

Into the Great Wide Open


Seit letzter Woche braucht man keinen Invite-Code mehr um sich bei Bluesky anzumelden, die wesentlich spannendere Info steht aber, wie beiläufig erwähnt, im letzten Abschnitt:

This month, we’ll be rolling out an experimental early version of “federation,” or the feature that makes the network so open and customizable. On Bluesky, you’ll have the freedom to choose (and the right to leave) instead of being held to the whims of private companies or black box algorithms. And wherever you go, your friends and relationships can go with you.

https://bsky.social/about/blog/02-06-2024-join-bluesky

Ich bin gespannt wie Bluesky federation umsetzen wird. Auf mich wirkt das ATProtocol immer noch viel zu kompliziert und „overengineered“, aber vielleicht ist das ja auch gerade der Vorteil gegenüber ActivityPub.

Das Bild zeigt den Aufbau und die Serverstruktur des ATProtocolsFederation Architecture Overview

Ich hatte vorgestern einen kleinen Plausch mit @deadsuperhero für den Decentered Podcast, in wir unter anderem auch über die Schwierigkeiten bei der Implementierung von ActivityPub sprachen. Da WordPress in vielen verschiedenen Umgebungen laufen muss und sich die Konfiguration des Webservers, die PHP Version, das Caching, die Interferenz mit anderen Plugins und andere spezial Fälle nicht seht gut abschätzen lassen, ist es sehr schwer komplexere Funktionalitäten umzusetzen.

Ein Beispiel: Im Gegensatz zu OStatus, wo die Distribution von neuen Inhalten über PubSubHubbub (jetzt WebSub) geregelt wurde, ist bei ActivityPub der Service selbst dafür verantwortlich. Ein direktes Verteilen der Inhalte, direkt nach dem Veröffentlichen, würde bei großen Follower zahlen, den Prozess unnötig in die Länge ziehen, oder könnte sogar zu einem Fehler oder einem kompletten Abbruch führen. Um dem (so gut es geht) entgegen zu wirken, wird der Prozess asynchron über WP_Cron abgearbeitet. Leider ist aber auch das keine Garantie für einen fehlerfreien Ablauf (Siehe Ende des vorherigen Absatzes).

Lange Rede kurzer Sinn: Abhängig davon wie simpel ein Personal Data Server kurz PDS aufgebaut ist, könnte Bluesky vielleicht doch interessanter sein als ich ursprünglich angenommen habe.

Ich muss mich wohl mal mit @snarfed.org@snarfed.org über seine Bluesky Implementierung unterhalten.

Ich bin gespannt!

https://notiz.blog/b/6uH

#ActivityPub #ATProto #ATProtocol #Bluesky #bridgy #WordPress

J12t, to fediverse
@J12t@social.coop avatar

Thanks @snarfed.org@snarfed.org for the shout-out to myself and the fediverse test suite project @feditest on the @wedistribute podcast.

Very interesting episode on bridging the and traditional platform as implemented by Ryan in and .

pfefferle, to bluesky
@pfefferle@mastodon.social avatar

oh nice, brid.gy by @snarfed.org@snarfed.org is featured on the Developer Blog ❤️

https://atproto.com/blog/feature-bridgyfed

OC Decentered S1E3: Ryan Barrett Has a Bridge to Sell Us (wedistribute.org)

For our third episode of Decentered, we talked to Ryan Barrett, the creator of Bridgy Fed! Ryan has a lot of experience in working with a variety of decentralized social web protocols, including IndieWeb, ActivityPub, AT Protocol, and Nostr, and has a lot of interesting thoughts on making them talk to each other.

justin, to mastodon
@justin@holonet.social avatar

Anyone know how to help with ?

I have set up and it’s sending based on interactions on . However, nothing is being received by Webmention.io.

I’m lost at what to do next for https://justincox.com/. Any suggestions?

cymaphore, to bluesky German

berichtet im Entwickler-Blog über , laut dem Entwickler sind jetzt alle wesentlichen Funktionen komplett.

Demnächst wird also tatsächlich eine Verbindung mit dem bestehen, mit gegenseitigem Folgen, Posten, Teilen, etc.

Die Bridge ist keine ideale Lösung, wird aber funktionieren, sobald bsky die erforderlichen Funktionen aktiviert.

https://atproto.com/blog/feature-bridgyfed

youronlyone, to bluesky
@youronlyone@c.im avatar

From what I was able to gather from https://snarfed.org/2023-10-06_bridgy-fed-status-update-7

  • through the will be enabled sometime in early 2024

  • The service is ready to handle bridge AT protocol and ActivityPub protocol posts and replies once federation is enabled in production (already working in sandbox test server).

The format will be:

  1. To follow a account from BlueSky / AT protocol: <username>.<server_domain>.ap.brid.gy

Example: @youronlyone.c.im.ap.brid.gy

  1. To follow a BlueSky / AT protocol user: <username>@atproto.brid.gy

Example: @atp.youronly.one@atproto.brid.gy

This allows users from each side to see new posts and to reply to these threads.

What is more interesting is that, if you have IndieWeb support on your website or blog, you will see comments from BlueSky / AT protocol appear as a comment, thanks to . It is already possible to do this with Fediverse / ActivityPub. ^_~

lari, (edited ) to fediverse
@lari@suomi.social avatar

Interesting (and technical) description of how Bluesky, Mastodon/ActivityPub, Nostr and Indieweb will eventually be bridged!

#bridgy #bluesky #activitypub #indieweb

https://fed.brid.gy/docs#compare

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