ljwrites, to random
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#WritersCoffeeClub May 28 - Do you have advice for other authors that you haven't heard from different sources?

Think of your readers as co-creators! These are imaginative, resourceful people who will inhabit your characters and bring new levels of meaning and creativity to your work. It's through them that your work will truly live.

That means, among other things, give them vivid and evocative information to get their engines revving, but don't micromanage their perceptions and reactions. I used to struggle with this, giving too many dialogue directions and descriptions in general trying to control every beat, every note, and every pixel of the imaginative screen. Between my beta-reader pointing out this tendency and Robert McKee's advice in his screenwriting classic Story to leave room for the actor to act, I was able to tone down my description by thinking of my readers as actors even though I don't write for the screen.

NaraMoore, (edited ) to writing
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#WritersCoffeeClub #writing 29. What's the average time to complete a writing project between the idea and publishing/making it available?

Depends on the project. Drabble I can finish in a day, though two is nice for a final edit. A 1-2K story ideally will take two weeks, 3-4 if I have it betaed. A 12K novel or series of volumes has usually taken me about a year from start to finish.

My average 180K a year.

JoanGrey, to random
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#WritersCoffeeClub

Advice I don't see often? Hmm.

Don't get attached to your writing. It's just words.

They might be words that are scraped from your soul, but ultimately, they're NOT YOU.

This means you should be able to separate critique of your words/writing/art from CRITICISM of your SELF.

Your writing will be stronger for the distance, and so will your psyche.

Also, stop sitting like a shrimp (stand up, twist around), have some water, and go pee.

neenamaiya, to random
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#writerscoffeeclub 28 May Do you have advice for other authors that you haven't heard from different sources?

This is what I was told by my best friend in the whole wide world when I was talking about what other writers have done: “Never compare yourself to others.”

Best advice ever. ❤️

cstross, to random
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May 28: Do you have advice for other authors that you haven't heard from different sources?

Yes: "there's more than one way to do it." (For almost any value of "it" that doesn't involve mathematics or formal logic.)

This is actually advice from a programmer, Larry Wall (inventor of Perl) but it applies especially strongly to writing fiction. Whatever you're trying to do, consider alternative ways of doing it.

youseeatortoise, to random
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#WritersCoffeeClub May 28: Do you have advice for other authors that you haven't heard from different sources?

Don't take other people's writing advice too seriously. At best, you're getting a process that worked for someone else.

NathanBurgoine, to random
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#WritersCoffeeClub Do you have advice for other authors that you haven't heard from different sources?

Every time you get edited, take a second to add things to a general list that have come up in the editing process. I call mine my "Foible List" to feel a bit better about it.

That way, post-draft, you can pull out that list and check all the things on it before you hand it to your editor. Saves time—and lets them find new mistakes you make instead of old ones! ;)

HeliaXyana, to privacy
@HeliaXyana@mastodon.nl avatar

28 advise

Safeguard the digital sovereignty of your writing.

When using cloud storage, do not rely on companies based in countries you do not trust or know the laws of. These laws might obligate them to break the privacy of your data.

Make a conscious and informed decision on how to handle your data. You put your heart and soul into your writing, so please don't just click accept. 💜

Emmacox, to random
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Do you have advice for other authors that you haven't heard from different sources?

To those considering writing, and those writers having one of those days where you’re wondering why you’re even bothering,

Do you want to be the type of human who is driven by consumption through destruction of our beautiful world?

Or do you want to be the person who created something new, to be shared with others, from the signature of your very existence?

WanderingInDigitalWorlds, to random
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#WritersCoffeeClub 27 What's the ideal story length? Use any definition of length you like, not just word count.

A story that lives long enough to never become a villian is my ideal story length. As anything more would sour a story, making it resent the world it exists in. An overlong story would be capable to souring the minds and hearts of those who read it.

On a serious note, getting the point across in a way which tracks without being imprecise or long winded is my favorite story length.

NaraMoore, to writing
@NaraMoore@sakurajima.moe avatar

#writerscoffeeclub #writing 28. Do you have advice for other writers you have yet to hear from different sources?

Decide if you're in it for the money, recognition, or yourself. Then set your goals accordingly.

crcollins, to random
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#WritersCoffeeClub May 27
What's the ideal story length? Use any definition of length you like, not just word count.

I don't think there is one 🤔 Unless I'm not enjoying a book, then it should be short. 🤣 If I love the story it should go on for a long time. 😀

pretensesoup, to random
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#WritersCoffeeClub 5/27: What's the ideal story length?

Long enough to develop the characters and ideas without it becoming repetitive or tedious. So it varies by genre, but for my patience level something in the range of 70-100k words is good. Too short and one begins to feel that too much has been omitted; too long and who has time for that. (Someone tell Neal Stephenson.)

elysegrasso, to random
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27: What's the ideal story length?

As long as it wants to be.

JonSparks, to writing
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#WritersCoffeeClub 27/5: What's the ideal story length?
Isn’t this the ultimate beginner question? To which the only answer is:
Not too long, not too short. Probably somewhere between five words and half a million.
#writingCommunity #ThreeKindsofNorth #TheSunderingWall #VowsAndWatersheds #writing #books

anderlandbooks, to random German
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#writerscoffeeclub May 27. What's the ideal story length? Use any definition of length you like, not just word count.

I can only echo the many others here who already said - as long as it needs to be to tell the story (and not longer).

NaraMoore, to writing
@NaraMoore@sakurajima.moe avatar

#writerscoffeeclub #Writing 27. What's the ideal story length? Use any definition of length you like, not just word count.

I don't know how to answer this. That is like asking what is fav of something. It depends on what the story is. I write anything from microfictin, drabble (100 words exactly) to 120-word novels.

I currently aim at 2-3 volumes of about 40,000 words.

davidtheeviloverlord, to random
@davidtheeviloverlord@mastodon.social avatar

#WritersCoffeeClub 26 May:
Would you consider writing a guide to your work, e.g. for aspiring writers?

Not all writers are like supervillains that plot,
Some writers are not, and plot, they do not,
Not all writers are writing every single day,
Some writers, they find that life gets in the way,
Some writers, their darlings, they just cannot kill,
Some writers kill even Main Characters at will,
Some writers, they'll tell you, writing, how to do,
But to write, figure out what way works for you.

NaraMoore, (edited ) to writing
@NaraMoore@sakurajima.moe avatar

#WritersCoffeeClub #Writing 26 Would you consider writing a guide to your work, e.g. for aspiring writers?

No, I don't consider myself as writing anything very deep or meaningful. I'd be happy to share a reading list of good yuri and creepypasta I have drawn on.

Nor is how I go about writing worth sharing. Boring and not an example of how to go about it best. I muddle through.

caointeoireacht, to random
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26. Would you consider writing a guide to your work?

¿Sort of?

Tittle: "Entropy & Wytches"

It'd be 50% guide for the Wytch-Fork universe,
50% explaining my processes,
100% info dumping.
Every other chapter would be titled
"This just how I do things. Find what works for you!"
or
"Careful about following me, I once drove an hour out the way to get home because my brain was world building."
or
"The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle and Newton's Laws of Motion frequently influence my though process. And yes this is a long title for a chapter."

And I'd be hella selfconscious about the language I used.
There wouldn't be "This is how you do things.", rather "Here's where I ended up, I will now show you the zig-zag of coffee stops involved as I drove across town to get there."

Chriscutler, to random
@Chriscutler@creativewriting.social avatar

27 April Have you ever written a section and subconsciously plagiarised another work?

Not a whole section, just an idea. Do you recognise this?

‘Are you happy?’
It’s the only question she asks these days. I have never lied to my mother.
‘In our own way.’
She reaches out a thin hand. ‘You can’t be happy in your own way, only unhappy. I want to know about you.’
‘I am happy.’
It’s the first time I have ever lied to her. She smiles her disbelieving smile.

Chriscutler,
@Chriscutler@creativewriting.social avatar

#WritersCoffeeClub 5/26: Would you consider writing a guide to your work, e.g. for aspiring writers?

Maybe the coffee hasn't kicked in yet, but until I reached "to your work" I thought the question was about writing guides in the manner of Save The Cat, Into The Woods, or The 90-Day Novel. Maybe flash cards or worksheets if I ever present a novel writing course, but they would only be for my students.

For my books, see part 2

Chriscutler,
@Chriscutler@creativewriting.social avatar

#WritersCoffeeClub 5/26: Would you consider writing a guide to your work, e.g. for aspiring writers?

In each book of the Cartwright family saga, the protagonists recover more of their past lives. By book 2, I was already including dramatis personae along the lines of John Cartwright, still living, previously Jean Coudriet, died 1943, previously Jean-Michel Belrose, died 1916...

Chriscutler,
@Chriscutler@creativewriting.social avatar

27 What's the ideal story length? Use any definition of length you like, not just word count.

Depends on the reader. A single concept short story, they will consume in one sitting, so over 3k might be too long. Books vary by genre, so for example, romance readers might be happy with as little as 50k. For thrillers, they want need at least 70 to get a good plot. Historical fiction needs more, say 90, to explain the period. Fantasy world builders will want a lot more.

Chriscutler,
@Chriscutler@creativewriting.social avatar

#writerscoffeeclub 28.5 Writing advice you don't (often) hear?

Why don't you add more characters/POVs/timelines/subplots/B stories?

Chriscutler,
@Chriscutler@creativewriting.social avatar

#WritersCoffeeClub 5/29. What's the average time to complete a writing project between the idea and publishing/making it available?

Since giving up the day job, my target is to publish the next in the series within a year of the previous book and for the French language version to be out before the English sequel.

So far, so good.

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