fabio, to philosophy
@fabio@manganiello.social avatar

I often get criticized for ideological inconsistency by mixing #liberal and socialist values in my posts.

I often cite #Voltaire, #Hayek, #Popper and other fathers of the liberal movement when it comes to civic rights, freedom of speech and expression, and defense against conservatism, totalitarism and dogma.

And I often use the language of #Marx, #Gramsci and Rosa Luxemburg when I talk about inequality and class struggle, capitalism, common resources, common access to the means of production and workers alienation.

But the more I think about it, the more I start to actually see them as complementary sides of the same coin.

It actually makes perfectly sense to me to be strongly liberal when it comes to individual freedoms, and strongly socialist when it comes to regulating the market.

You can’t have individual freedoms and universal rights in an economic system that is prone to unregulated exploitation and formation of oligopolies that no longer obey to the rules of an open and competitive market.

And you can’t have a fair and sustainable economic system without freedom of expression, freedom of growth and enterprise and equal opportunities.

Liberalism without a socialist core is the post-1970s neoliberal degeneration advocated by Friedman, Reagan and Thatcher. It’s cynical capitalism on steroids/cocaine, it’s assured enshittification and establishment of rent-seeking behaviour perpetrated by an unaccountable handful of oligopolies who only respond to their shareholders.

And socialism without a liberal core is the Soviet-like degeneration that the world has experienced throughout the 20th century.

And I wish that such a liberal/socialist doctrine had more political representation out there, instead of being embodied by political forces that are often in mutual exclusion with one another.

@philosophy @politicalscience

BlumeEvolution, to iran German
@BlumeEvolution@sueden.social avatar

Hatte bei meiner Rede im am 9.11.2023 bewusst auch die -Formulierung von Erneuerbaren als aufgegriffen & zu weiterentwickelt.

Dass die Bundes- nun aber ernsthaft einen Förderstop für fordert, erschüttert mein Vertrauen in den nach . Denn die fossil finanzierten Kriege durch , , etc. gegen die 🇺🇦, 🇮🇱 usw. sind noch nicht einmal vorbei! 😭🔥🇩🇪🇪🇺🤔

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_wLqJrU3uow&pp=ygUVTWljaGFlbCBCbHVtZSBMYW5kdGFn

informapirata, to eticadigitale Italian
@informapirata@mastodon.uno avatar

Il nuovo credo della Silicon Valley è una religione da incubo

Il lungotermismo è una delle filosofie più in voga tra i miliardari del tech, ma ha tratti molto inquietanti e quasi da culto: un saggio ne analizza caratteristiche e criticità. E ci spiega perché non dobbiamo sottovalutarlo

@eticadigitale

https://www.wired.it/article/lungotermismo-silicon-valley-libro/

0alexita,

@informapirata @eticadigitale non ho idea di chi sia #Popper; ma il fatto che gli esseri umani possano parzialmente controllare io proprio destino é un dato di fatto: ognuno raccoglie cio che semina (non so chi l'ha detto, ma chiunque fosse aveva ragione); e per il fatto che la specie umana abbia il controllo dell'ambiente in cui vive basta guardarsi intorno; ha pure nome: #Antropocene

preya, to random German
@preya@mastodon.social avatar

Wenn wir das Toleranzparadoxon ernst nehmen, dann dürfen wir rechtsradikale und menschenfeindliche Tendenzen nicht mehr tolerieren. Aber was heißt das konkret? Was machen wir mit den Leuten, die sowas vertreten? Umsiedeln? Ausweisen? Verprügeln? Ich verstehe halt nicht, was uns solche Aussagen wie „dürfen wir nicht mehr tolerieren“ bringen? Was bleibt uns denn sonst übrig? #popper #fckafd

plinubius, to random German

Erst Mitte 20 verstand ich, dass mit kein Bettlaken-Gespenst gemeint ist, sondern so etwas wie heilige Gedanken oder heilige Ideen, bspw. die der Bergpredigt. Durch verstand ich, dass Sprache Ideen von Menschen trennen lässt, sodass die Bekämpfung schlechter Ideen (also Ungeister) die Tötung von Menschen überflüssig macht, da man ja im Gespräch allein die Idee beerdigen kann. Mitglieder politischer Vereine sind ergo , dies ihre Hymne https://open.spotify.com/track/0phGofl3ppS5Itk1zM9eKa?si=XRQ8gS4uRkajmsWvQosqBA

sarahbosetti, to random German
@sarahbosetti@mastodon.social avatar

Es ist nicht unsere Aufgabe uns zu überlegen, welche Erzählung uns am besten gefällt, und die durchzuboxen, bis sie als Wahrheit gilt. Es ist unsere Aufgabe Realitäten anzuerkennen und mit ihnen umzugehen.

über Aiwanger & Andreas Jurca:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz3u2HsYagQ

chriscarl,

@sarahbosetti
Was die Diskussion über Gewalt gegen Rechts anbelangt, nur so viel: ich bin sehr froh und dankbar, dass die Alliierten die Welt von Nazi-Deutschland befreit haben. Wir alle wissen, unter welchen Opfern. Man stelle sich vor, sie hätten es ausschließlich mit Diplomatie versucht. Wo zieht man die Grenze und wer legt das fest? Und wenn man abwartet, ist es dann nicht schon zu spät? Wie war das mit dem Paradoxon der Intoleranz? #popper #noafd #wirsindmehr

GottaLaff, to missouri
@GottaLaff@mastodon.social avatar

🤬 judge ruled ban on gender-affirming health care for minors can take effect Mon…means next wk health care providers prohib from providing gender-affirming surgeries to children. Minors who began puberty blockers or hormones before Mon will be allowed to cont. meds, but other minors won’t have access to drugs.
Some adults also lose access to gender-affirming care. Medicaid no longer cover treatments for adults, state won’t provide surgeries to prisoners https://apnews.com/article/transgender-health-minors-missouri-196d873aa5a5b8b05b0af18f0e653a16

HistoPol, (edited )
@HistoPol@mastodon.social avatar

@faraiwe

...am a big fan of the tolerance paradoxon. I doubt, however, without having sufficient knowlege, as I am not a #philosopher, that #Popper would be in favor of #dehumanizing #nazis.

Zero tolerance does not mean they use their human rights. They are inalienable.

analyticus, to philosophy

Karl Popper's Paradox of Tolerance:

If everyone is tolerant of every idea, then intolerant ideas will emerge. Tolerant people will tolerate this intolerance, and the intolerant people will not tolerate the tolerant people. Eventually, the intolerant people will take over and create a society of intolerance. Therefore, Popper said, to maintain a society of tolerance, the tolerant must be intolerant of intolerance…

More:
🔗 https://markmanson.net/the-paradox-of-tolerance

#popper #karlpopper #Philosophy @philosophy

HeavenlyPossum, to random

We are within living memory of the worst war in human history, in which literal nuclear bombs were used on civilian populations, and still someone will show up in my mentions to remind me about the Mongols and the Black Death.

“Don’t you know how good you’ve got it!” they scream over the Holocaust.

nemobis,
@nemobis@mamot.fr avatar

@HeavenlyPossum @ttiurani Or maybe "moral presentism", in opposition to what #Popper calls the "moral futurism" of Marx in opposition to the "moral positivism" of Hegel.
https://archive.org/details/opensocietyitsen02popp/page/206/mode/2up?q=positivism

The belief that whatever we have now is justified because it must be better than what we had before.

WorldImagining, to cognition French
@WorldImagining@mastodon.social avatar

Between you and me, if the beliefs you hold about the world are readily and genuinely cognitively modifiable, I can make allowances for theories that may not be formally falsifiable 👍

#Popper vs #Pragmatism

@philosophy
@cognition

kubikpixel, to random German
@kubikpixel@chaos.social avatar

Gestern musste ich einem jungen Menschen das »Paradoxon der Toleranz« von Karl Popper erklären, da dieser meinte dass nicht tolerieren von Intoleranten Menschen würde mich ebenfalls in einen schlechten und intoleranten Menschen machen /o\ Ne eher das Gegenteil, ich halte marginalisierte Personen dadurch deren Rücken frei, weil die ansonsten von intoleranten Deppen angegangen würden.

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nemobis, to random
@nemobis@mamot.fr avatar

What the learnt from 40+ years of in : let's replicate the experiment on the eastern border of the EU.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/08/us/politics/us-sanctions-russia-ukraine.html

nemobis,
@nemobis@mamot.fr avatar

Just the other day I was reading #Popper on #Plato and #truth vs. #lies.

«The problem whether or not a good end justifies bad means seems to arise out of such cases as whether one should lie to a sick man in order to set his mind at rest ; or whether one should keep a people in ignorance in order to make them happy ; or whether one should begin a long and bloody civil #war in order to establish a world of peace and beauty.»

https://archive.org/details/opensocietyitsen0001popp_n9a8/page/286/mode/2up

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