I just entered several #Guppe groups (e.g. @mathematics @physics
) but the groups just keep silent from my point of the view.
I wonder if it is just because nobody posts for the past 12 hours or some other technical issues (or I just misunderstand the mechanism of it)?
@mok@mathematics
I've been in the Maths one for a while, and I can see some posts from more than 12 hours ago but less than 24 hours ago, then it's a couple of weeks to the last posts before that, so a bit spasmodic.
If you haven't heard, sadly, #ChirpSocial, one of the popular #ActivityPub “groups” platform, is shutting down “probably” on February 29th.
In an email they sent to admins, the owner and developer can no longer support https://chirp.social financially as they failed to find a new job after they were laid off by #Google last year.
This reminds us the importance of having a built-in groups feature, and one where the groups feature actually federates.
Back in 2008, when the #Fediverse was born, we did have a built-in federated groups in #Laconica / #StatusNet (today known as #GNUsocial). We used bang (!) instead of at (@). A built-in groups feature is more stable as established instances can host them.
Today, we have #Friendica and #Hubzilla (as well as #Streams-based instances) to fill in that, as groups is a built-in feature in those software products. It's just a matter of finding an instance that's open to hosting groups for any topic for the ActivityPub protocol.
That said, any Friendica, Hubzilla, Streams-based instances you suggest for groups?
And the lord looked upon the creation of the group @red_state_insurgents
and it was good.
And the lord said "hey all you brave leftist souls living in red states ... Go forth and insurge!
But seriously ...
If this describes you, and you'd like a group where you can plot, scheme, commiserate, support, and maybe have fun meeting some people who share this particular geographic affliction; then come join the fun!
See you there 😎
Oh yeah ... please boost for reach 🙏
Hey #fediverse, does anyone know if a.gup.pe and chirp.social has some sort of #API which lists all groups in it? I've just thought of an idea to make this #GoToSocial instance I manage federate even more instances than just 600+ servers, which is to #massfollow them all with a #followbot. Yeah it's a really bad thing to use against normal instances (it's gonna annoy humans behind the accounts), but it shouldn't be a problem if I just follow group accounts, right? :sagume_think:
I'm gonna also try mass following every community in #Lemmy and #kbin as well.
#Fediverse question:
Is it just me that has issues following #guppe groups or #lemmy communities on #iceshrimp or #mastodon? Or is this just a problem with ActivityPub microblog platforms?
"'The threadiverse', aka #fediverse group servers like #guppe, #lemmy and #kbin are all based on the premise that each community is hosted on one instance, but users and posts can come from all over. So it's like any normal #phpBB-style forum, except you use your own user instead of having to register and check everywhere.
Makes sense to me, and I'm not saying that they should do it any other way, but this is exactly how mailing lists work."
@Sandra
after reading your post I looked around for a android mail client that treats your mailbox like a BBS or microblog, and while I didnt find that I did find #DeltaChat on #FDroid which treats your mailbox like a group chat, and so far its been pretty nice as it allows you to navigate threads a bit easier than the usual phone mail client. But I think if I had my mail in a microblog fashion, where the inbox is like your timeline, and you could jump between "topic timelines" for your various mailing list directories, that would be so much nicer than anything currently available for phones. @lispi314
Testing how it works when a #Guppe group becomes a “magazine” in #Kbin.
For this post, the test is to see if this will appear as a reddit/stackexchange/quora “question”, or is this post going to appear in Kbin's “microblog” tab?
Bonus: If it appears as a question-type (not microblog), then is it going to federate in other fediverse software that are not reddit/stackexchange/quora types through the Guppe group? Or, should we subscribe to this Kbin “magazine” first?
Earlier this week, #guppe announced that they were going to sunset the platform because they had become too popular, and didn't have enough funding to sustain itself.
But today they announced that due to a last minute surge on Open Collective, they are now able to cover server costs.
The platform lives another day. That said, they still don't yet have enough funding to cover labour costs.
If you'd like to make a contribution, here's the Open Collective page:
@atomicpoet@fediversenews sounds like, above all, we need more instances, rather than funding further growth of one that is apparently already too big.
> "As a final opportunity to preserve Guppe, we have reduced the minimum contribution amount to join the Guppe Platform Cooperative to $2/month or $19/year. If Guppe cannot reach a level of funding to cover all of the hosting and a couple hours of administrative labor per month, then service at a.gup.pe will shut down on May 31st, 2023."
@smallcircles
And it is enough to stay afloat. Still a reminder that this "it might fail" puts unnecessary stress on people and creates shifts to the next service. There is more than guppe in the fediverse.
Consider donating to services like peer tube, pixelfed, your instance and many more.
Get a stable foundation to let them run and not be anxious about whether they need to close shop due to bills. we should not run fediverse on the back of people.
The long-running Fediverse group service Guppe (https://a.gup.pe) will shut down on 31st May 2023 if it doesn't receive enough funding to cover its costs:
You're absolutely right that most of the things being discussed in the mastodon space are already built. Search and quote posts are both controversial, but also both old news on a number of fediverse platforms.