slothrop, to linux
@slothrop@chaos.social avatar

Since all the search engines have gone to shit, I'll resort to the old-fashioned way of finding information: Asking people.

So, what's the easiest, most foolproof way to do encrypted offsite #backups on #Linux?

I have a few TB at Hetzner, and a few personal laptops that need automated backups.

The whole thing needs to be fairly foolproof to run (because at least one kid is going abroad for a few months with their laptop), and foolproof to set up up (because it's me setting it up)

falken,
@falken@qoto.org avatar

@slothrop Borg

danie10, to technology
@danie10@mastodon.social avatar

Should you build your own NAS or buy a pre-built?

An interesting read, and I have to say I do lean more towards building your own. I did buy a bare-bones NAS by D-Link many years ago because you could add your own hard drives, but what I discovered after a few years was there were no more software ...continues

See https://gadgeteer.co.za/should-you-build-your-own-nas-or-buy-a-pre-built/

#backups #NAS #technology

brightbox, to random
@brightbox@ruby.social avatar

Learn how to use Restic to manage secure and efficient backups to Orbit our UK-based object store:
https://www.brightbox.com/docs/guides/orbit/restic/

#backups #cloud

Taffer, to AWS
@Taffer@mastodon.gamedev.place avatar

I briefly looked at AWS S3 Glacier storage, thinking maybe having a second cloud host for my backups would be good.

I can't actually figure out how much this will cost me because they charge per operation (you know, like PUT, GET, etc.) in addition to the storage costs (which I easily figured out).

The kicker? I work at AWS. 🤷

#aws #s3 #glacier #backups

kboyd,
@kboyd@phpc.social avatar

@Taffer After many years of putting it off, this month I added a lifecycle rule to my backup bucket to convert objects to Glacier instant retrieval.

My guess is that it will cut my storage costs nearly in half.

But i can only guess, because understanding AWS pricing is impossible.

paul, to random
@paul@snac.notnull.space avatar

Well, that was fun - thought I'd do a little filesystem cleansing and ended up accidentally (I did not check my work, tut tut tut) removed fedi VM ( I thought it was on a different disk, whoops!) - joy!

are available of course and restoring now. being the easiest to restore so that's back online first! I've lost today, but that's OK I've been pretty quiet!

status_updates, to stackoverflow

To avoid another accidental deletion mistake, we've converted our offsite backup storage into Stack Overflow posts.

#backups #offsitebackups #stackoverflow #dataprotection

swetland, to random
@swetland@chaos.social avatar

Exploring restic for backing up my workstation (to local external volumes and probably "the cloud" too) at the suggestion of a friend.
https://restic.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

Maybe just in time, because...

[605358.398403] nvme0n1: I/O Cmd(0x2) @ LBA 131640760, 1024 blocks, I/O Error (sct 0x2 / sc 0x81) MORE
[605358.398428] critical medium error, dev nvme0n1, sector 131640760 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x80700 phys_seg 88 prio class 2

Now I'm replacing the primary NVMe SSD tomorrow too...

swetland,
@swetland@chaos.social avatar

@mikef Seems like consumer drives supposedly should be good for 1 year offline at 30C (worst case), and 5-10 years seems within the realm of possibility (for a drive in good condition).

I think as with anything "don't rely on a single backup" is probably the best policy (see also: "RAID is not a substitute for backups").

Not sure there are any great options for high capacity (100s of GBs or more) long term offline storage...

mansr,
@mansr@society.oftrolls.com avatar

@swetland @mikef RAID is not a substitute for backups, but it does save time when you need to replace a drive.

Taffer, to HowTo
@Taffer@mastodon.gamedev.place avatar

New post - Backups https://taffer.ca/posts/2024/backups/

Please back up your files (and a how-to for restic on Linux)!
#Backups #Howto #Linux #Tools

markstos, to Ansible
@markstos@urbanists.social avatar

Today in #selfhosting, I'm investigating why I got alerted that my #backups aren't running.

The first task is determine if the backups really aren't running or whether there's a problem with monitoring/alerting.

I used #Ansible to set up #Restic to backup to #BackBlaze.

I think I'll start by checking in BackBlaze to see how fresh the backups are. 🧵

markstos,
@markstos@urbanists.social avatar

🧵 I've got a fresh #restic backup running for the service that wasn't set up before and I'll check my metrics tomorrow.

The #Ansible role I'm using is: https://github.com/roles-ansible/ansible_role_restic

The backup completed and I see fresh metrics in AWS Cloudwatch Metrics, but not in my Dashboard I just made. Sigh.

vwbusguy,
@vwbusguy@mastodon.online avatar

@markstos That's awesome! I'm also backing up mine with Backblaze via restic, but I'm doing mine old school with a bash script in crontab.

calispera, to random
@calispera@babka.social avatar

does it stil make sense to back up materials on blue ray disks nowasays ?

Like, I have about 80 Gb of videos of my trainings, I do them for my pt to comment on them

I don't want to throw them away but at the smae time, it's not like I watch them so often

Also some tv shows I'm affectionate to but I don't rewatch too often, I just like to have them

Is blueray stila thing ?

#blueray
#backup
#backups

shekinahcancook,
@shekinahcancook@babka.social avatar

@calispera

We still buy dvds and cds. The internet sources are not going to preserve anything that isn't popular and profitable.

calispera,
@calispera@babka.social avatar

@shekinahcancook

ok, I understand that

But I was wondering

If I back up my stuff on a blue ray disk today, will I still be able to access my stuff in 10 years ?

Are the disks going to mantain their integrity ?

Or I'll discover I have lost my data some day in the future ?

Are new readers gonna be available ?

What's th eperspective on all this ?

outofcontrol, to random
@outofcontrol@phpc.social avatar

I have long used backups that are monthly full backups, weekly full, and daily incremental (or sometimes also full if smallish). Yesterday I learned this is traditionally called the “Grandfather-Father-Son” scheme. This was a surprise, at least to me.

Seems a bit patriarchal and has nothing to do with backups. Is there a better name currently in use?

outofcontrol,
@outofcontrol@phpc.social avatar

@ianh Wonder if Wikipedia would keep my edit if I were to “fix” that https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backup_rotation_scheme

ianh,

@outofcontrol I've never edited anything there, but I would have thought even moreso in today's world, that it'd be welcomed (there's been other changes too 9not sure about wikipedia specifically).. 'master' -> 'main' for git, 'master/slave' -> 'primary/secondary' for DB replication, etc). I would say with it being an open platform I personally wouldn't see an issue with it.. it's not changing any factualities.. I'd give it a shot and see 🙂

tripplehelix, to RaspberryPi
@tripplehelix@fosstodon.org avatar

Anyone else use with ? Are your working? Seems mine suddenly stopped on ~28th Feb. It is now failing to log in and hanging up my .

I've uninstalled Debian's stable version (V1.60.1+dfsg-2+b5) of rclone and installed from git (V1.66.0). Still having the issue. Tried removing all configs, tried with --debug and --verbose flags both show nothing other than trouble logging in.

I don't have 2FA enabled as it's unsupported on rclone.

flub, to random

Reminder that if you make #backups to some disk(s) that is(are) under your physical control, nothing beats https://dirvish.org/

outofcontrol, to github
@outofcontrol@phpc.social avatar

After doing some research online, it appears these two companies are fairly well respected for GitHub repository backups:

GitProtect
Cloudback

Any mastodon recommendations, comments, feedback, or preferences for other backup plans?

Over 150 repositories and growing. Not looking to script our backups, need ISO/IEC 27001 and SOC 2 compliance.

jan, to random
@jan@kcore.org avatar

Did a comparison between , and for +- a month.

Meant for off-site , storing +- 6TB.

Tools used are and . All data is encrypted client side before being shipped to the cloud.

Comparing up-times, speeds (both down and up), and the correctness of the data stored. The last part was done using a VPS, and the data was found to be identical.

On speed (up and down) Jotta wins, Hetzner comes second, Mega fluctuates wildly.

On up-time Jotta and Hetzner tie, Mega went off-line for me at some points (worrysome)

On price Jotta also wins. Mega comes second, Hetzner last.

So I'll stick with Jotta. It's hosted in europe, it's fast, it's priced decently, support reacted fast when I asked some (noob) questions.

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