lupomancer,
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Try and explain to someone that despite the fact that the thermostat reads 20, the whole house isn’t that temperature

“Yeah but 20C is 20C”

Sometimes I wonder where knowledge/innate understanding floors lie. Like I, for as long as I remember, have innately understood that a thermometer doesn’t read the temperature of an entire space. It reads a sample of where it is. Large spaces can fluctuate temperatures between random points MASSIVELY.

And this isn’t even talking about complex ideas of heat distribution, and I’m certainly not making assumptions about this person’s intelligence. Everyone knows it’s warmer closer to the fireplace than further away, I just assumed everyone can, and more crucially, would extrapolate that concept to other similar situations.

I was so astonished at needing to explain this that I kinda just changed the subject and moved on because I didn’t want them to feel like I was being shitty and calling them dumb in front of others

dragonarchitect,
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@lupomancer This is legit why I want to use something like Home Assistant and a whole bunch of cheap solid state temperature probes around my room but also around the house to measure where the hot spaces and cold spaces are, and figure out more optimal thermostat settings accordingly.

dragonarchitect,
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@lupomancer Especially want to use smart home automation to automate the changing of the thermostat settings throughout the year and as the weather temperature swings up and down.

lupomancer,
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@dragonarchitect That’s the thing, I do use house automations but sometimes there are edge cases where it gets REALLY COLD after a period of hot days where my office and the common spaces will stay a little bit colder than comfortable.

I think my issue is the automations I have are fighting with the ecobee system. I have two ecobee sensors; the thermostat and a sensor it came with, but I have a TON of thermal probes in HomeKit/home assistant.

The swarm of probes will give a better picture of house temp, but ecobee will trust itself and its own probes over the swarm communicating to it over APIs.

I’m still trying to figure out how to work around that

KayOhtie,
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@lupomancer @dragonarchitect I'm not sure of a good way off-hand. I currently mostly just kinda adjust my thermostat when I need to, I haven't written any HA automations to handle adjusting it but I've got sensors in every room. Mind I'm away right now so it's giving the away setpoint up top there.

I know @mathias has an ecobee with a single satellite sensor for it, but I don't think does any thermostat comfort adjustments based on any other sensors yet (though that's probably partly because he only recently got sensors)

I really should see about setting something up that factors humidity in. The hard part is just making something that won't ever get in my way.

lupomancer,
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@KayOhtie @dragonarchitect @mathias Yeah it’s something I’m learning as my home automation suite gets more diverse.

There’s a certain amount of trust I want to have in the system to just work, but also when I tell it to do something I want it to LISTEN.

From what I’m reading online, Ecobee can be difficult to work with for things like this, and my workaround may have to just be a giant library of if/then statements. “If <office> is below…”. I was hoping to avoid that, hardcoding stuff SUCKS

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