rolle,
@rolle@mementomori.social avatar

If you like to torture youself, check out what people are babbling on Bluesky in real time about Mastodon: https://firesky.tv/?filter=mastodon

rolle,
@rolle@mementomori.social avatar

Someone should do something like this for Fediverse. Or is there a tool like it already? I kinda like watching the messages flow.

#Fediverse #Firehose #Firesky #Mastodon #MastoAdmin #OpenSource

rolle,
@rolle@mementomori.social avatar

Got my first successful prototype by using a streaming API. This will be a fun weekend project.

I wonder what happened to this project: https://github.com/cscape/mastodon-firehose

autiomaa,
@autiomaa@mementomori.social avatar

@rolle Their other repositories also stopped being updated in 2019, so it might be that author moved away from GitHub. Latest repository of that user account is in 2022, but I think they just stopped having time to do open source software. https://github.com/ciolt?tab=repositories

researchbuzz,
@researchbuzz@researchbuzz.masto.host avatar

@rolle Hmm... that looks doable. Would you want to follow one instance or a bunch?

rolle,
@rolle@mementomori.social avatar

@researchbuzz As much as them as possible.

researchbuzz,
@researchbuzz@researchbuzz.masto.host avatar

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  • rolle,
    @rolle@mementomori.social avatar

    @researchbuzz Someone already attempted something like this: https://codepen.io/ryedai1/pen/jOdEbQL

    But it scrolls slow and is not the same.

    Kinda exploring myself as well to build something like that :blob_smile_sweat:

    If you have a GitHub, I could help. Would be fun. @raikas or are you by any chance doing this already?

    researchbuzz,
    @researchbuzz@researchbuzz.masto.host avatar

    @rolle @raikas That's scrolling timelines. I think you were looking for mentions of Mastodon specifically?

    I would do something like that only I'd use the hashtag API call instead of timeline. Think I'd also use the &local=true switch so the post content wouldn't be from all over the place.

    rolle,
    @rolle@mementomori.social avatar

    @researchbuzz I was looking for the main https://firesky.tv stream with all messages, with possible filter options.

    @raikas

    researchbuzz,
    @researchbuzz@researchbuzz.masto.host avatar

    @rolle @raikas Oh, I misunderstood.

    Andres,
    @Andres@mastodon.hardcoredevs.com avatar

    @rolle
    What is wrong with https://mastodon.social/public?
    You can do that with a nice design already.

    rolle,
    @rolle@mementomori.social avatar

    @Andres That "chat type UI" + filtering options are nice.

    Andres,
    @Andres@mastodon.hardcoredevs.com avatar

    @rolle
    It shouldn't be difficult to have that from a Mastodon instance's API.

    ButterflyOfFire,
    @ButterflyOfFire@mstdn.fr avatar

    @rolle Nothing interesting about #Mastodon on #Bluesky. While there is more interesting content about Bluesky on Mastodon.

    voyager,
    @voyager@g0v.social avatar

    @ButterflyOfFire @rolle Most Bluesky users do have join a Mastodon instance, and among them many are not resentful towards Mastodon

    While not all Mastodon users have joined bluesky and I know a number of them do not admire what bluesky is doing...

    hybridhavoc,
    @hybridhavoc@darkfriend.social avatar

    @rolle I think the closest you can come right now is just watching the Public feed of the largest + best-federated instance you can find.

    rolle,
    @rolle@mementomori.social avatar

    @hybridhavoc Yeah except for the filtering thing.

    mackuba,
    @mackuba@martianbase.net avatar

    @rolle I think this shows a big difference in the cultural expectations in Fedi vs. ATProto that would be a problem here - on Bluesky this is a normal tool (though probably a lot of new people don't realize it works this way), on Fedi you'd be burned at the stake if you tried to build something like that 😬

    tisha,
    @tisha@htt.social avatar

    @mackuba @rolle For sure 😅

    anthracite,
    rolle,
    @rolle@mementomori.social avatar

    @anthracite No filtering and it's only our public feed, not so minimal either. But I'm building this on top of the streaming API.

    kirt,

    @rolle

    i want someone to teach Juniper to use mastodon

    cc @kirt

    sullybiker,
    @sullybiker@sully.site avatar

    @rolle Facebook mom group energy? Here?

    alcea, (edited )

    @rolle
    This is as good as I'll make it for now.
    If that is what you wanted :blobcatgiggle2:

    https://codepen.io/ryedai1/full/jOdEbQL

    rolle,
    @rolle@mementomori.social avatar

    @alcea A bit slow but yes, then let’s just build the filtering… workable 👍

    rolle,
    @rolle@mementomori.social avatar

    @alcea Maybe @raikas could build it (I wonder how the API rate limit with work with that)? I could help in styling.

    raikas,

    @rolle @alcea Instead of polling each server public feed the best way probably would be to use a very federated instance's (mastodon.social or mementomori.social) "all" live feed 🤷. That requires the user to login with OAuth and implementing the streaming API.

    That design is also doable, but it just pings the servers a lot and could be bandwidth heavy for users with slower internet.

    alcea,

    @rolle

    If you are referring to the "hickups" those are because mouseover stops scroll, so you can click.

    The scroll speed can be , I don't it tho 😅

    I like using a instance array, so lesser instances can be fed too if one wishes

    lety,
    @lety@doesstuff.social avatar

    @rolle Lmaooo

    > If you like to torture yourself

    I feel this describes a bad amount of people using Mastodon. Like, is it an age thing, or a culture thing? Mastodon is fun but I feel like people on the platform have a weird expectation for Mastodon to be a lifestyle or something more than literally just a website.

    Misskey's size, development history, and decentralization are all comparable to Mastodon, and it seems like people there are a million times happier on average.

    rolle,
    @rolle@mementomori.social avatar

    @lety I think people IN GENERAL are masochists.

    realcaseyrollins, (edited )

    @rolle It's kinda unreadable IMHO, it needs some buffers like #Twitch added to their native livechat client

    werdersee, (edited )

    @rolle The same can be said when you follow the #Bluesky hashtag on Mastodon. Twitter/Bluesky users being defamed as "junkies" who need their "dopamine fix" by being "slaves to the algorithm", allegedly being disappointed by the lack of Mastodon's algorithm apparently makes them capitalist attention-seeking whores, or they're just simply fascists supporting a fascist platform (that's Bluesky, because of Jack Dorsey).

    Mastodon is not one tiny bit better when it comes to self-righteousness.

    mackuba,
    @mackuba@martianbase.net avatar

    @werdersee @rolle Which is all the funnier given that Jack Dorsey is so uninvolved in the Bluesky development that he deleted his account there recently…

    73ms,

    @mackuba still on the board though, right? that is a little more important than whether he spends time “skeeting”.

    That said I think more important than Dorsey personally is the funding model which he does personify.

    mackuba,
    @mackuba@martianbase.net avatar

    @73ms Yeah, he is on the board, but as far as I know he isn't really involved, the team has free rein, and he has 1/3 of the vote so he'd be overruled if they disagree (which has already happened before, from what I hear).

    mackuba,
    @mackuba@martianbase.net avatar

    @73ms The funding model is… vague. They have a lot of runway from the initial funding, and they got some new VC funding round lately, but they don't really know the target business model yet. They want to find some non-enshittifying ways like some extra paid services.

    Their plan/stated goal (officially) is that by the time this could become a problem, everything will be so decentralized and out of their hands that they will not be able to enshittify it even if they wanted.

    73ms,

    @mackuba yes, that is my point. VC funding means everything is great until the squeeze starts. Twitter had a hard enough time finding ways to make money and I am skeptical about avoiding enshittification. They have already said they will not be “dogmatic” when it comes to ads for example and good intentions now in no way guarantees them in the future.

    As for the decentralization... I have my doubts about that working out and they have already ensured that their own instance will stay huge.

    mackuba,
    @mackuba@martianbase.net avatar

    @73ms Yeah, so the whole plan is to actively build the whole thing with that problem in mind, so that they can't take it all back if they turn evil at some point. It's not fully there yet, but moving steadily in that direction:

    image/png

    FinchHaven,
    @FinchHaven@sfba.social avatar

    @rolle

    This is why I have no interest in the people pushing their shiny new #RSS #Bluesky feed apps recently

    I've read Bluesky streams periodically

    I have no interest in it

    Any of it

    https://firesky.tv/

    troed,
    @troed@sangberg.se avatar

    @rolle Have they started federating? All messages were from bsky main server except this one:

    mackuba,
    @mackuba@martianbase.net avatar

    @troed @rolle they've been testing federation since the summer with third party devs in a sandbox network, but it's not live yet - it should be finished early next year

    juuhaa,
    @juuhaa@mastodon.social avatar

    @rolle

    Itselläni oli kyllä ihan kivaa lukiossa...

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