Haagel

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Haagel,

The real singers were two men and a woman, if I recall correctly…

Haagel,

Descartes warned us but we didn’t listen

Haagel, (edited )

Scientists may have solved the mystery behind transporting some of the materials to the pyramid site: a dried-up a river

Fixed the title for you.

The construction of the Giza pyramids is still baffling. Some of the stones are purported to weigh 80 tons. That’s four or five times more weight than what modern trucks can pull on paved roads.

It’s not so farfetched to presume that this ancient civilization employed technology that is lost to time. I’m not talking about aliens and laser beams, but good ol’ fashioned mathematics. They could have exploited a principle of leverage and incline that we simply don’t understand or recognize. Or perhaps something entirely different from our six simple machines

The problem with this theory, of course, is that we like to believe that humanity is always progressing and that we are superior to our forebears by default. That is ultimately a subjective opinion.

Haagel,

Yes. I’m familiar with this image. Some scientists claim that when just the right amount of water is poured over sand it reduces the friction by about 30%.

Some also claim that there were not hundreds of thousands of laborers at the Giza pyramids, based on evidence discovered in the work camps near the site.

I’m 38 years old and I think I’ve read about a new theory every year of my life…

Haagel,

“The study was done by Christian Wagner and colleagues at Saarland University in Germany, along with researchers in the Netherlands, Iran and France. The team was inspired by an ancient Egyptian wall painting showing a huge statue being hauled across the sand on a sledge in about 1800 BC. The painting has a detail that has long puzzled Egyptologists: a worker who appears to be pouring water onto the sand in front of the sledge while others appear to be carrying water to replenish his supply.”

physicsworld.com/…/did-slippery-sand-help-egyptia…

There are hundreds of articles about this theory. It was all the rage a few years ago.

Haagel,

Again, there are hundreds of articles about the adjacent work camps. Please look at the publications of Zahi Hawass, chief archeologist of Egypt, and Amihai Mazar, a professor of archeology in Jerusalem.

Most claim that there could have been up to ten thousand workers. Some claim that the number of workers was as low as 1600.

Haagel,

I never suggested that they couldn’t.

Personally, I don’t think that the “brute force” argument is the best. I think it’s arguing from ignorance.

Haagel,

They also depict gods with the heads of jackals and birds, beings from other planets, their conception of the afterlife, pornography, and obviously exaggerated claims about the power and influence of the Pharoahs.

I’m saying that we should be skeptical. dubitante omnibus, as Descartes would say…

Haagel,

Yeah, I remember this guy. He claimed that Stonehenge in England could have been built like this. The pyramids of Giza are much more complex, of course. Still, I think it’s entirely possible that the pyramids were built using very clever engineering principles that were forgotten and that we don’t need because we have cranes and power tools and hydraulics, etc.

Haagel,

I don’t know, my friend. I’m not an archeologist or Egyptologist. I’m just an enthusiast who has read a dozen conflicting theories.

Haagel,

Source? I’m not doubting you. I’m just surprised that the government would limit research, probably for political reasons.

Haagel,

I’ve also heard of this. It seems to me that this theory should be easy to confirm with some sort x-ray or radar or lidar or something, so that we can see the shape of the structure beneath the superficial layers…

Haagel,

I swear that I’m not trying to be obtuse, but I have a lot of doubts.

What kind of ropes and wooden sleds, manufactured in 4000 BC, can move 80 ton stones? There are tensile limits…

Sticky trick: new glue spray kills plant pests without chemicals (www.theguardian.com)

The insect glue, produced from edible oils, was inspired by plants such as sundews that use the strategy to capture their prey. A key advantage of physical pesticides over toxic pesticides is that pests are highly unlikely to evolve resistance, as this would require them to develop much larger and stronger bodies, while bigger...

Haagel,

All jokes aside, this is another great example of a trend towards bio-inspired engineering.

Haagel,

Isn’t that Lamarckism? If I recall correctly, that’s an older model of evolution that is not commonly recognized anymore.

Haagel,

Y’all are too obsessed with coffee. It’s unhealthy.

Downvote me all you want…

Archaeologists identify the birthplace of the mysterious Yamnaya (www.economist.com)

Yet they and their descendants would go on to transform Europe and much of Asia genetically, culturally and linguistically. Among the many innovations that these steppe migrants ushered in, scientists believe, are the Indo-European languages that are dominant in Europe today, and which are spoken by nearly half of humanity....

Haagel,

What is the irony? That Europeans are now stereotypically parochial?

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