LeftistLawyer, to random
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jackdweeb,
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@LeftistLawyer
Which countries populations are growing through child birth, yours or someone else's?

elizabethveldon,
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@LeftistLawyer sorry, mate: you can't use the language of eugenicist and murderiously racist colonialist movements and dismiss their history with a wave of your hand which is exactly what you are doing.

humanisttrek, to StarTrek
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When Star Trek takes a swing at the “overpopulation problem”, Kirk is kidnapped and used to introduce a deadly STD into the population. Is Earth spiraling toward overpopulation? Are we prepared to make difficult decisions for the survival of our species? Why doesn't anyone ever ASK FOR HELP? Will Allie ever watch Futurama?

Find Humanist Trek wherever you replicate your podcasts!

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18+ AyameTan,
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@humanisttrek We've been overpopulated for over half a century. We should be imprisoning breeders, not rewarding them.

humanisttrek,
@humanisttrek@trekkies.social avatar

@AyameTan I hope that’s just hyperbolic… imprisoning breeders doesn’t sound like a very humanist solution. 👀

humanisttrek, to StarTrek
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When Star Trek takes a swing at the "overpopulation problem", Kirk is kidnapped and used to introduce a deadly STD into the population. The writers even kicked both sterilization and prophylactics past the 1960's censor goalpost. Is Earth spiraling toward overpopulation? Are we prepared to make difficult decisions for the survival of our species?

Find Humanist Trek wherever you replicate your podcasts!

MHowell, (edited ) to Hawaii
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"Welcome to the extinction capital of the world."

Quite simply: As human population grows and our footprint expands, more human habitat means less habitat for endangered species. Pile on invasive species (like domestic cats) and climate change and native species don't stand a chance.

But the author almost entirely misses Section 7 in their word-fluffed up article, where critical habitat is defined as off-limit to developers. But developers rule in #hawaii

#Endangered #EndangeredSpecies
#EndangeredSpeciesAct #ESA #habitat #USFWS
#overpopulation #overshoot #ExtinctionRebellion #extinct
#cat #cats
#ClimateCrisis #ClimateChange

https://www.vox.com/down-to-earth/2023/12/14/23990382/extinction-capital-hawaii-endangered-species-act

CathOBrian, to climate
LaNaehForaday,

@CathOBrian

Hi, I live in an earthship.

gmate8, (edited ) to random
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Note: DO NOT TRUST SPONSORS in this video, and on the channel

Humans, corporate greed, overpopulation, capitalism. I think it says it all.

I am sick of how we treat animals. They suffer for no reason. Not to mention even ourselves, underpaid workforce, suffering also, thanks to our shiny big fucking C A P I T A L ism. I ain't no socialist, but this is not a great system.

Why is U.S. Chicken Illegal in Europe?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCr2xouPFFk

gmate8,
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Oh boy, that shop at the end of the video really discredits him. I decided to check up on his main channel and looks like he became what he's been fighting against.

Looks like he's a scammer too like Alex Jones. However unlike Alex Jones, the issues he covered, still do exist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xJCXnRZ3CQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Inhh5IiHRHU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGeYgl9CzN4

mof_sg, to singapore
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mof_sg, to singapore
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65dBnoise, to scifi
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Why is almost no one in the world talking about ?

Elites aren't talking about it because profits from increased consumption is what drives their policies.

Progressives aren't talking about it, rightfully arguing that the vast majority of Earth's population is NOT responsible for current problems.

Tho, wishing justice, or pretending it'll magically somehow prevail, isn't stopping the problems from skyrocketing; it's just escapism.

If you're into that, does it better 😬

65dBnoise,
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@avencolonial
LOL! I read your statements, you made yourself clear. Your attitude is also noted. Please do yourself a favor and read the rest of the thread, and then try to engage in a polite discussion, if you can. Take that as a warning. There will be no other.

avencolonial,

@65dBnoise

"I don't have any rebutal so I'll just say do your research even though I have done none and run off."

Like every conspiracy theorist and/or myth spreader, you get spooked when your little myths/lies get debunked, and try to play the "Im more mature" card.

You clearly couldn't debunk anything I said, so you have to run now.

So, see ya. Not like giving you data has ever made people like you go out and do actual research lol.

AskPippa, to environment
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Not enough fish in the sea and too many people needing them for food.

"The UN Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) projects the need for a 15% increase in global consumption by 2030.
There’s one big problem: The growth rate of the global wild-fish catch peaked in 1963 and plateaued in the 1990s. It has been in slow decline the last few years. When it comes to the wild-fish catch, we are likely past “peak fish."

https://leahy.substack.com/p/have-we-reached-peak-fish?publication_id=8423&post_id=128346477&isFreemail=true

65dBnoise, to random
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rich, to random
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I find it hard to classify Peter Coffin politically. On the one hand, I think their critiques of capitalism are spot on. But they'll be chugging along, making a cogent point, when all of a sudden, they say something that is not only wrong but sounds like corporate propaganda.

Here's their documentary on #overpopulation and #degrowth

https://youtu.be/OW8vkUY93i8

At one point, in this very long documentary, they say, that renewables do not provide consistent energy, and therefore, if we were to rely on them as our only source of power, people would die. (It's at about 90 minutes)

But here's the thing...That's wrong.

To the best of my knowledge, that's not true. When I was developing my own political outlook about ten years ago, I read dozens of studies which indicate that a 100% renewable energy infrastructure (across all industries) would not only meet but exceed global energy demand.

Here's one

http://energywatchgroup.org/wp-content/uploads/EWG_LUT_100RE_All_Sectors_Global_Report_2019.pdf

Here's another

https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/9837910

Here's a meta-analysis of 180 peer-reviewed papers, most of which insist that it is both technologically and economically feasible to meet global energy demand with 100% renewables.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0360544219304967?via%3Dihub

There are dissenting opinions, yes. I would be remiss if I didn't mention them. But if you look deeper, you'll find that a lot of these dissenters have ties to other energy industries.

And I'm not suggesting that we simply turn off all the nuclear plants tomorrow.

This is not some anti nuclear energy rant. I think there's a lot of potential in #thorium technology. At least as an interim power source. Possibly as a long-term option.

https://youtu.be/tHO1ebNxhVI

But any nuclear technology inevitably generates radioactive waste, which can be devastating if not stored properly.

Renewables will generate waste too. Just about every human endeavour does. But that waste is far more manageable.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0360544219304967?via%3Dihub

So if 100% #renewables is feasible (and the evidence suggests that it is), we should keep that option on the table and develop synergistic strategies. Now, what does that mean? Well, when most people think of renewables, they think wind and solar. And those would definitely be part of the equation. But people rarely mention the other options: wave, tidal, hydro and geothermal. The latter offers enormous energy potential.

A synergistic strategy means that you use all of these options together and you tailor the energy grid for each geographic region. You don't make solar panels your primary method of energy generation in the Yukon (which gets very little sunlight in the winter months). But in Arizona? That's a great place for solar.

Now, of course, there are obstacles. I'm not trying to make this sound like we can just snap our fingers and make clean energy infrastructure. But the key here is that our best scientific minds agree that these obstacles are surmountable.

Throughout the video, Peter equates "reducing consumption" with "killing poor/disabled people." The argument they make pretty much verbatim goes like this.

Humans need energy to survive. So, if we reduce energy consumption, people are going to die.

Except no one is advocating for that. Maybe Jason Hickel is. I haven't read his book. (He wrote Less is More). And Peter did include some cringy quotes from Hickel.

But when serious people talk about a reduction in consumption, we're not talking about leaving poor people to die.

Overconsumption is caused by the inefficiencies that are baked into #capitalism. Capitalism is an engine for turning natural resources into crap that sits in a landfill. Why? Because of cost efficiency and profit maximization.

Cost efficiency is not true efficiency. Real efficiency is getting the most productive output for the least energy input. Cost efficiency is making the most profit for the least cost. These two things are not the same.

Take phones, for instance. Phones could be modular and durable. In other words, if a single part breaks down - like one chip on the circuit board - the one part is repaired or replaced while the rest of the phone remains untouched. But creating phones like that costs more. And reduces repeat purchases.

Apple, Samsung and Motorola go out of the way to squash the repair market. They want to make it easiest to just replace the entire phone when a single part breaks down. That's why phones no longer have removeable batteries. Because if you have to pay for a new battery (which will be harder to find if your phone is a few years old) and for the maintenance of taking the phone apart and installing the new battery, you'll probably just buy a new phone.

That's what maximizes Apple's profits. Companies have to generate cyclical consumption to stay in business. That's the overconsumption we're talking about. Not basic living essentials like water and power and food.

Speaking of living essentials, let's look at housing. In 2019 - the last time I checked - the US Census Bureau reported 545 000 homeless Americans. Quite a bit, right?

In the same year, the Department of Housing and Urban Development reported 13 million permanently unoccupied houses. Permanently unoccupied means nobody lives in them. They aren't being used as somebody's summer home. They are literally just sitting there untouched, functioning solely as an asset on someone's balance sheet.

That's the overconsumption we're talking about. Not only do we have way more houses than we actually need, the people who do need them can't live in them.

Why are we, as a society, making so many unused houses? Because that's how developers make a profit! Profit is the problem.

Profit = overconsumption.

That's what we're talking about: harvesting natural resources that go into unused products, many of which find their way into landfills. Throwing out perfectly usable products that could repaired. Tossing used parts into landfills even though their components (gold, copper, cobalt, tin) are still perfectly usable and could be extracted.

No serious person is talking about "getting back to nature" or "shutting off the power and going primitive" or "leaving disabled people to die."

Anyone who advocates the latter is someone you should absolutely stop listening to.

#NLRBE #NaturalLaw #ResourceBasedEconomy

ophiocephalic,
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@quietmarc @rich @DoomsdaysCW
Agreed, definitely not reliable. Coffin and the other people on that axis are red-brown fascist entryists. That they get a take right here or there, to notice with a casual glance, is the exact ploy. Suggestion to classify Coffin as an enemy and run away

rich,
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@ophiocephalic @quietmarc @DoomsdaysCW Yeah, I suspect you're right. I find that most of left tube has either stopped making videos (I used to make them but don't anymore) Or has mutated into something that really can't be called left wing anymore.

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