protonmail,
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Achieving total anonymity online is difficult – and if you use a service like , you won’t be able to do it.

You can achieve a high level of privacy when you use services like , @torproject, and an email alias service like @simplelogin.

https://proton.me/blog/how-to-send-an-anonymous-email.

zorc,

@protonmail @torproject @simplelogin I'd argue that privacy and anonymity are related but not equal. Consequentially, your two points are only loosely connected.

On the other hand, I do appreciate that account sign-up is now possible from your onion site directly. Does it also work without phone number, existing e-mail address, or payment? I don't want to create an actual account just to try. :)

protonmail,
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@zorc We absolutely agree with you: https://proton.me/blog/anonymity-vs-privacy, however, we do understand that some users' threat models include anonymity to some degree which is why we try to offer options for them too: https://proton.me/blog/use-protonmail-anonymously.

It should also be possible to set up an account over Tor with just a Captcha verification, rather than email or SMS. Admittedly this is less likely on Tor because of anti-abuse measures, however, not impossible. Generating a new Tor circuit or identity may help here.

Coccocoahelper,

@protonmail @zorc Wouldn't it also be better to use something such as Qubes OS with a ton of RAM, and buy a VPS to host your own e-mail service, proxied through multiple Tor Relays? I mean, Proton AG is still subject to subpoenas; a person running their own safe-locked e-mail service is definitely safer.

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