jonny,
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where are the egg tooth experts when you need them
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Egg_tooth

jonny,
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what could low-importance bird articles be oh ok that makes perfect sense
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Low-importance_bird_articles

jonny,
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absolutely fucked up behavior
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantome

jonny,
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people probably didn't even want to drive between your legs, they just can't see you because you are invisible. you didn't need to eat their brains through the palm of your massive hand about that.

jonny,
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now THAT is a category page i can get behind https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Mythic_humanoids

lina,
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@jonny
I saw "monopod" and thought "plz pics" and it's exactly what I hoped

neia,

@lina @jonny The lack of symmetry bothers me. Do they start with two legs and then one gets reabsorbed?

jonny,
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@neia @lina the other images on that page show a symmetrical foot without a big toe

lina,
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@jonny
@neia
the foot is so big it's just a perspective thing, all toes are same size

jonny,
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@lina @neia all old woodcut things like that use fisheye lenses for perspective and historians don't know why

jonny,
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@lina check out this dream team. monpods and headless guys together at last

lina,
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@jonny
what babes. where do they hang out?

jonny,
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@lina
Apparently in western Libya I think

jonny,
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@lina there are a bunch of paintings and engravings of them hanging out, they seem to be buds. here they're just doing some farming

jonny,
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@lina idk why the monopods always look like they're having such trouble with their leg, i think they supposedly got around by crawling like snakes?

lina,
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@jonny
i had a dream a couple years ago where i was a rokurokubi of the stretchy neck variety, tho I just learned about them now

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rokurokubi

jonny,
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@lina i think the author and i have very different understandings of what "some differences" means

lina,
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@jonny
"some" as in ">1"

jonny,
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jonny,
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BRO herodotus how are you going to drop some dog-headed and headless men with eyes in their chests on us like that and say NOTHING ELSE
https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Hdt.+4.191&fromdoc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0126

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jonny,
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no one is saying anything about how the headless guys are, just they they don't have any heads. are the like nice or have agriculture or what

jonny,
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jonny,
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god the books of weird stuff that probably exists in the rest of the world but we've never actually seen it are some of the best books of all time

jonny,
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there wasn't really literary form in the year 1000, you just rip and run with whatever kinds of guys are on your mind
https://blogs.bl.uk/digitisedmanuscripts/2013/03/monsters-and-marvels-in-the-beowulf-manuscript.html

jonny,
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jonny,
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jonny,
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stream of consciousness screaming past trees that grow rocks, the existence of Ethiopians, and a big ass 300 foot long couch. i am like whoa whoa whoa you care to elaborate on literally anything about them

jonny,
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this book ends like a #monsterdon movie -- they just drop this and then go on to transcribe the bible for a few pages for some reason. like.. OK!? do they need help!? or what is going on with theM!?!?!?

18+ jonny,
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but then i remembered that there WERE A BUNCH OF HOOLIGAN MONSTER GUYS ALL OVER THE WORLD and they are called ANIMALS and they all do WAY WEIRDER SHIT than all of that.

jonny,
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can you believe there are these monsters that can hear the texture of a moths wings by screaming at them and they are just called "owls"

liohong,

@jonny @jonny On top of including black Ethiopians in a bestiary of humanoids, apparently there's another kind of black people, which is doubly unusual to the author. But of course this view makes sense when the Anglo-Saxons and their kind are the true humans.

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@liohong
Its true that the author is definitely someone we would call a racist today. To be fair to them it isnt entirely a bestiary, there are lots of other parts where they are also describing the humans of other areas they've never been to, and it seems like their attitude is "all of these are people" rather than "only we are people and everyone else is a monster," which is super interesting to me bc I also initially read it with that assumption.

Like they didnt have any sense of boundaries around the concept of "human" vs "nonhuman," and out there in all the other places weve never been there are lots of weird kinds of guys, so while theres definitely a "we are normal and they are weird," that seems to be different than "and therefore they are bad and not the same thing as me."

But yeah youre not wrong that all these medieval-ish manuscripts that posit a wild unknown are like "holy shit everywhere else is scary as fuck" and you can absolutely see how that would blend seamlessly into anglo racism

jonny,
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@liohong
Part of the scientific construction of racism includes the development of the concept of "species," and as you say excluding everyone that isnt white from the "human" species. This seems to precede that where different kinds of animals are of different types, but they are somewhat fluid types. I want to read more about the status of race and species in this era bc I dont know enough about it to say for sure

liohong,

@jonny My judgment of the Marvels was probably premature, but thanks for acknowledging how fear very easily leads to antagonism and de-humanisation.

For the record, Xingtian is very much 'local man too angry to die'.

jonny,
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@liohong
I think your judgement is entirely fair and I am only adding my take because I was thinking about basically the same question.

My plan tonight once I put work away was to read more about Xingtian because the wiki page was light on details and I want to read the full story!!!!

NilaJones,

@jonny

Sounds like a reasonable gold panning method, tbh

The pitch out of water sounds like tar

jonny,
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@NilaJones
I was waiting for prospecting fedi to weigh in. I just love the sense of analogy here: "I pulled something out of the water once, so why couldnt that something be gold?"

gelato_al_pollo,

@jonny
The christian church had an interesting discussion in the middle ages about dog headed people, and they decided that they have a soul and should be evangelized if anyone finds them, which is nice of them.

They also have a dog-headed saint
https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Christopher_icon.jpg

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