gabriel,

Do and overlap at all?
Is there a torrent client that can seed both? I've seen a couple of unresolved issues on clients like qbittorrent, but I'm wondering if there's one people use.
Same question, but also for the tracker side, is there tracker software that both clients can talk to?

gabriel,
silverpill,
@silverpill@mitra.social avatar

@gabriel

>Webtorrent has been around for a while, and torrents have been around since 2008.

They have been around since early 00s. According to Wikipedia BitTorrent was founded in 2001, TPB in 2003

gabriel,

@silverpill Good catch!
Embarrassing in hindsight! 🤦‍♂️

freeschool,
@freeschool@qoto.org avatar

@gabriel
qBitorrent is pretty good in general

  • even has internal python search engine and results section for finding torrents so you don't need to go elsewhere!

ℹ️ For 32-bit users, use 4.1.91 as last working version + install python 3.4 (not newer) to get the whole download + search tab working. :torrent:

https://www.qbittorrent.org

gabriel,

Tracker side: it looks like bittorrent-tracker can communicate with both clients, but seeding doesn't work from qBittorrent just webtorrent desktop.

jeff,

@gabriel normal torrent clients can't seed to web browsers

gabriel,

I was also curious what archive.org uses, it turns out they have v1 torrents (not suprising considering how long they've been at it) and webseeds, but no webrtc tracker.

Part of me wonders if this is the best-case scenario, just a normal torrent file with webseeds for web-based clients (that can at least talk to each other)

For the record the use-case I have in mind is a kind of personal archive, nothing insanely resilient.

errhead,

@gabriel
This thread contains steps for building a version of libtorrent that supposedly supports torrents and webtorrents. I never tested it myself.

https://ideas.joinpeertube.org/posts/26/allow-third-parties-to-contribute-bandwidth

gabriel,

@errhead
Great thread, definitely the kind of thing I'm looking for.

As an aside, I knew I needed to read up on what was meant by web video vs hls p2p.

Seems like they've always had issues with webtorrent, which basically means I've got a lot more reading ahead of me...

errhead,

@gabriel not in my experience, but I stopped checking after PeerTube dropped webtorrent support so there may have finally been a breakthrough.

gabriel,

@errhead oddly enough I did check my own peertube. If you download the .torrent you'll see that acts as both a torrent and webtorrent tracker and includes the web seed.
This is almost perfect, but I don't think peertube lets you upload arbitrary content like PDFs / Folders of stuff.
I still haven't been able to get qbittorrent & webtorrent desktop to peer with each other, regardless of trackers used...as far as I can tell.

gabriel,

@errhead
Interesting to note, peertube uses v1 torrents not v2 torrents

Vo,
@Vo@noauthority.social avatar

@gabriel I have used qbittorrent to seed bitchute videos, is that what you mean?

gabriel,

@Vo Do they still support that? Is the tracker they use public? As far as I understand qbittorrent can download webseeds perfectly fine, but I'm wondering if it (or any other torrent client) can support seeding to webrtc peers.

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