@freemo@mushroom_soup While I disagree with your characterization, it’s an example of my point; to many in the western world, #Israel defending themselves and ending the war is genocide, and thus, unacceptable.
You worded that wrtong again you m3eant to say "Pelestine defending themselves and being wiped out by israel is genocide and ends the war"...
You can not call it defense when Israel are objectively the invaders. You cant even say they are reclaiming land they lost 2000+ years ago as they arent, the land they occupy is not the same borders asa the original israel.. the current borders are in acentrally arabic lands that was not the Jews.
I mean tate is right.. but the truth is talk will never work because the one just thing (the occupying force leaving completely) is not on the table...
Palestine does not want to kill all jews. A few terrorists do who rule by fear do...
Terrorists that only really gained traction due to the poor living conditions and abuse under israel of the people (you do that you get radicalism, it isnt right but it is an expected consequence)
Moreover there are plenty of Israelis who want to kill all Palestinians, about in equal proportion as the other side. But it wouldnt be fair to say Israel wants to kill all Palestinians either, their leaders certainly do though.
@freemo@mushroom_soup There is probably some truth to this. Not sure about how many people in #Palestine support #Hamas, nor if they gained power through purely democratic means, but I have heard some Jews on far right talk radio out of #Israel say there’s “no such thing as an innocent Palestinian” 😫
Do you think that if we removed both leaders, the people could live together in peace? Or have the citizens become too radicalized for that to work?
I dont think both sides want the other dead.. but both sides are unwilling to comrpomise.
Ehther you agree with it or not, remember the palestianians had the land to themselves for many many generations and are proud of that. Most palestinian families if you go into their home have a family tree going back hundreds of years of their roots in palestine.
In their mind there is no compromise, they were there for as long as modern history records (in fact the Jewish claim to the region is a biblical one, not historical). So nothing short of the Israelis either leaving, or at least creating a single shared nation is an option.. thing is in a one state solution with democracy the palestinians outnumber the jews, so they would win democratically.
The jews will never accept a one state solution, the only solution they will accept is if their allowed to steal the land, they proide the option of stealing a lot of land, or a lot of land minus a tiny bit... and they wont settle for anything less.
Neither side sees anywhere where compromise exists as being an option.
So no, not because of hate, but because of what they want I dont think the two sides will ever create peace on their own.. now if we invaded, deposed both governments, dissolved the border and spent years there trying to setup a transitional govt .. then yea, you might see peace.
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